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Post by api »

selimthegrim wrote: post #291
api wrote: post #122

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Can't speak for others, only myself. To me he's an obvious off the charts narcissist... so much so that his narcissism actually seems extreme against the backdrop of Washington politics and the media. That's kind of amazing. IMHO that disqualifies him from the presidency regardless of his policies. It's analogous to why you can't get a pilot's license with bad eyesight. A narcissist is a person with a dangerous addic…

I too, am from Cleveland, and I can't say I've ever heard Thiel mention Ohio or the heartland/rust belt specifically.

Find Thiel's RNC speech on YouTube.

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Post by badsock »

curiousgeorgio wrote: post #447
matt4077 wrote: post #280

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" According to Jessica Roy of Time Magazine Molyneux argued that violence in the world is the result of how women treat their children, and that "If we could just get people to be nice to their babies for five years straight, that would be it for war, drug abuse, addiction, promiscuity, sexually transmitted diseases, ... Almost all would be completely eliminated, because they all arise from dysfunctional early childh…

See, you're falling into the trap of trusting what other people say about a person, rather than actually listening to that person's viewpoint. If you were familiar with Molyneux and his full line of reasoning, you'd understand quotes like that in context rather than how someone in the media wants to characterize him.

There are literally millions of voices out there proposing different ways to look at the world. It's physically impossible to listen to more than a small proportion of that number in your lifetime, so it's reasonable to have your first level filter be "is it easy to find examples of them saying things that are very obviously stupid".

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Post by S4M »

striking wrote: post #461
S4M wrote: post #458

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The fact that PG answers DHH with another question to avoid the original question proves that he (PG) is uncomfortable with the subject. Though, this would better be asked to sama.

He's not avoiding the question. It's a stupid question. And this isn't nearly the first time dhh has butted heads with pg on Twitter (for no discernible reason other than to pick a fight).

DHH asks him if Thiel has invested more in Trump than in any other YC startup - implicitly asking PG if he's happy to have such a partner. PG retorts by asking if DHH would fire an employee who would be supporting Trump. How is that not avoiding the question?

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Post by icebraining »

SomeStupidPoint wrote: post #454
icebraining wrote: post #262

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Libertarians disagree with your assertion that the government has implemented free-markets, and therefore reject the idea that they support current policy.

My point isn't contained to the present system: Even in theory, libertarians are hypocrites because they fundamentally advocate for failing to pay for the externalities of their coercive system, and all supposed benefits of libertarianism can be traced to temporary boosts caused by (inefficient) capitalization of that failure to pay for externalities. Libertarianism enriches a few by creating 0.9 units wealth for eve…

Is there any economical system you disagree with but don't consider dishonest?

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Post by ting_bu_dung »

shaftoe wrote: post #473
ting_bu_dung wrote: post #434

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the real tragedies is you are not aware you're just a little bit misogynistic yourself. "With Hillary you have a woman how is point her fingers at Trump". what does her being a woman have anything to do with your argument? let's face it, you're willing to overlook the fact that trump is a psychopathic, women hating, racist, russia-affiliated, tax-dodging scum because hillary. all the points you've raised about hillar…

I think we need a new law to augment Godwin's Law, that all debates about this election devolve into agreeing that both candidates are grotesque and disagreeing about which one is worse.

people on hacker news don't seem to realize there are shades of gray in the world, it's not black and white. Hillary might be light gray, but trump is BLACK. just like whenever there's discussion about Russia or China, people goes BUT US!. no. shades of gray.

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Post by ting_bu_dung »

rayiner wrote: post #452
ting_bu_dung wrote: post #439

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well, when you align yourself with a women-hating, racist candidate, what do you expect your friends to think?

In a way, because this election has come down to a dichotomy between Hilary and an actual cartoon villain, it'll be bad for the democratic party. It'll ensure the entrenchment of the conservative "think of the children" "just say no" wing of the party for another decade or more.

you mean the decline of the republican party and the entrenchment of angry white uneducated men for the next 10 years? It's already in the cards.

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Post by AsyncAwait »

DominikR wrote: post #341
madaxe_again wrote: post #287

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Conversely, he could from a family like mine - my Omi is Austrian, along with a slew of cousins. Dinner table conversation still turns to how things would have been better had herr Hitler won. My uncle has to leave the room he so vociferously objects to his mother and his children. So, that collective memory swings both ways. Maybe Thiel lacks education in history and pines for a glorious fictitious past, which is a…

Hitler was a Socialist, not a right wing politician. That's what you Austrians/Germans get wrong. Hitler enacted a 70% income tax for the highest incomes, implemented a full welfare state, free childcare, free schools, free everything to force propaganda down their throats. He was an arts student (probably he would have done well with SJW's of today), a vegetarian, anti smoking, pro animal rights, anti religion etc.…

> Hitler was a Socialist, not a right wing politician.

He was a right-wing populist that wanted to do "socialism" for the superior German race by enslaving Slavs etc. He actually hated the Soviet Union precisely because it was socialist. In fact Nazism actually means "Nationalist Socialism" = Nazism, which is not the "Socialism" of the soviets, but a right-wing, one race owns everything ideology, which is precisely why Nazism is a separate ideology.

The fact that this is believed by some is disgraceful.

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Post by analog31 »

Thiel seems a lot like Trump -- he won the startup lottery and acts like it entitles him to be taken seriously about politics and economics. My reaction is similar when some movie star endorses a candidate.

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Post by tlogan »

tvural wrote: post #264

Thiel might have ulterior motives, but his support of Trump is not too surprising if you've listened to his other ideas. He feels that the political agenda has been overrun by distractions, like "who can use which bathroom", at the expense of real problems, like the stagnation of median wages over the last forty years. He prefers the days when the national conversation was about how to beat the Soviets, and sees the…

I'm not surprised at all that Thiel is for Trump: he was always more for preserving America as white a possible than libertarian guy.

And Trump did for one important thing: we all know who are the racists and which organizations harbor and supporting racisms.

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Post by josho »

forgetsusername wrote: post #346
mattmanser wrote: post #325

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As a foreigner, I really don't get this attitude. Hillary's a hawk, so let's support the obviously erratic, racist, bigoted, tax-dodging, incompetent, incoherent, sexually assaulting idiot who looks very much like a new Hitler and thinks if you win an election you get to lock up your opponents like a crazy third world state. Boggles my mind that 'Murica' 'Freedom' can bring out such a petty, childish and obviously se…

> So what is it about Trump that's so compelling that is not reported to us? It isn't complicated: there is an apparently large population of Americans who are tired of the establishment. Things have not been well for them for many years; wages are stagnant, they haven't benefited from the recovery much. These people don't want to see another politically established Bush or Clinton in the Whitehouse. This was embodie…

I understand that sentiment, yet am shocked that people put aside all of Trump's faults.

The real issue that I wish American's focused on was their weak democracy. Why accept a two party system fuelled by private money?

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