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Ask HN: To those who became fluent in a second language, what did you do?

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Re: Ask HN: To those who became fluent in a second language, what did you do?

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http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/

this site is incredible.

The writing is super well done by a guy from Africa who moved to the US, and while in the US learned japanese.

He learned how to speak so well that when he took an interview for a software development job, they asked him for his address (assuming he was japanese) and didn't believe that he wasn't from there.

The site is not just for japanese. Most of the info is general (and uses either japanese or chinese as examples). I recommend it to everyone.

Re: Ask HN: To those who became fluent in a second language, what did you do?

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post #19

I learned to speak French starting from scratch in my 30s, while living in the US. I speak it well enough to enroll in an easy college-level course intended for native speakers[a] or to work professionally[b], although either experience would be painful at first. For me, the process occurred in three phases: 1. Bootstrapping to the point where I could kinda-sorta read books and kinda-sorta carry on conversations. I p…

What French TV shows did you enjoy? I've been looking for some to watch to improve my listening skills.

Re: Ask HN: To those who became fluent in a second language, what did you do?

#34
I have been looking forward for this since I asked how to improve the language, especially English [1]. Thanks to the OP for asking this. I am also glad there a lot of people share theirs story or method when learning a second language.

I know it's not only book as the main resource to improve the language. By the way, any recommendation of book or other resource to improve English language?

Thank you.

[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12690479

Re: Ask HN: To those who became fluent in a second language, what did you do?

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I have been looking forward for this since I asked how to improve the language, especially English [1]. Thanks to the OP for asking this. I am also glad there a lot of people share theirs story or method when learning a second language. I know it's not only book as the main resource to improve the language. By the way, any recommendation of book or other resource to improve English language? Thank you. [1]: https://n…

Check out http://www.antimoon.com

Re: Ask HN: To those who became fluent in a second language, what did you do?

#37
Get a good dictionary of the language in the language and read it a lot. Get some basic grammar and asap use it on unsuspecting natives. For the phonemes that you did not get the chance to assimilate as a child, you're going to have to learn the mouth/throat movements and feelings like a gymnast learns jumps. Hope this helps.

Re: Ask HN: To those who became fluent in a second language, what did you do?

#38
I'm native Romanian, fluent English and medium German. I've learned both on my own. School was terrible for learning anything.

Read, read a lot. But not hard-copy books. Read short articles. Read something you're interested in and already have some knowledge of. Technical stuff is easier than literature. No metaphors, no hidden meaning. You might not understand much in the beginning, but that's ok. If you at least get the gist of the article, you're good to go. It keeps you interested. Install the "Wiktionary and Google Translate" addon (if on Firefox, or similar for other browsers). Double-click a word to pop up it's definition. Or select whole sentences to instant-translate them. Every word definition is a click away. The more you see, the better you become.

Watch your favourite tv show with subtitles. If the tv show is in English and you already know English, that's all you need. Put on the subtitles in the language you want to learn and see the magic happen. You'll pick up words and expressions in no time. Dramas/thrillers work better than comedy. Comedy is usually fast-paced and has complicated expressions. Recommended: Dexter, Breaking Bad, SOA, etc. Not recommended: Friends, Big Bang Theory, etc. You get the idea.

It takes time, but it's better than learning all the grammar before you even have the chance to use the language. It's like learning the geometry of the hammer without ever using it. A little grammar right at the beginning might help, of course. But don't stay too long in that corner.

Re: Ask HN: To those who became fluent in a second language, what did you do?

#39
A quick, easy and fun way is to view tv series and films in the other language. You could add subtitles in your own language at first. If it's a difficult language watch something you already saw. The context will help, you already know what it's about.
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