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Post by inimino »

meritt wrote: post #71
bobsgame wrote: post #38

I'm not very political and I haven't decided who to vote for yet, but I don't understand why the tech industry is so anti-Trump. He seems like a relatively sincere and smart guy to me, and some of his policies seem to be better for business. Is it because of tougher immigration laws? Are there other reasons based on his policies, or is it mostly just emotional?

Because he's a bully with a dangerous trigger-finger mentality. He doesn't have any actual policies. There's the formal GOP policy which he frequently contradicts and his own viewpoints are extremely fluid as well. His only consistency is attacking those who he views as lower than him.

This explains why you won't vote for him, but that wasn't the question. The question is why the tech industry would differ from the population at large, where Trump has >40% support.

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Post by AvenueIngres »

inimino wrote: post #80
bobsgame wrote: post #38

I'm not very political and I haven't decided who to vote for yet, but I don't understand why the tech industry is so anti-Trump. He seems like a relatively sincere and smart guy to me, and some of his policies seem to be better for business. Is it because of tougher immigration laws? Are there other reasons based on his policies, or is it mostly just emotional?

Tech leans liberal and highly-educated, demographically not a good fit for Trump.

Because voting behaviors and income levels are highly correlated. Stop right there if you believe that people dislike Trump because they are "smarter". It is a cheap to make you feel good about yourself.

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Post by Tsugumo »

fixxer wrote: post #23
vinhboy wrote: post #17

Politics aside. What does it say about his judgement to continue investing in something that is statistically on track to fail. Not only that, but its also a toxic brand to attach yourself to. Or do we just put this in the "expensive new hobby" section and leave it at that. ---- Update: I want to hijack my own comment to ponder something. As someone with no money and no influence, I find it hard to think about how to…

I'm not betting on a Trump presidency, but I'm fascinated at what the electorate is going to look like in the general. We've been basing so much of the polling on projections over 2012/2008 turnout. I would not be surprised if the final margin is within 2 points.

Super Tuesday voter turnout in 2008: 8,228,763 for Democrats, 5,025,685 for Republicans. 2016: 5,557,243 Democrats, 8,307,884 Republicans If I was a betting man, I'd put my money on Trump. I think it will be close. That said, I also believe electoral fraud could decide the election.

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Post by minimaxir »

mcknz wrote: post #90
pesenti wrote: post #16

Thanks for the flexibility (for context https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12716662 ).

Not sure why we would turn off flagging, if it's doing its job keeping flame wars off of the front page.

Hence the experimentation and additional caveat by sctb.

Note that the flamewar detector may not have been turned off and is possibly punishing the submission otherwise.

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Post by douche »

nodesocket wrote: post #2

Not convinced this is Hacker News worthy. Let's keep politics in political forums.

I don't feel that discussions of what is appropriate to discuss on hacker news are Hacker News worthy. Let the chips fall where they land, I say.

Of course, there's an old adage about the ubiquity and quality of opinions

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Post by threeseed »

nostrademons wrote: post #88
dlss wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> That's worth a lot more than $12.5M. Agreed. (Though FWIW $1.25M is the amount he invested)

I'm assuming 1/10 probability of Trump winning. Most poll aggregators are going 1/6; I actually suspect we'll see a bigger Clinton blowout than expected, but that's just MHO.

From the numbers so far coming out from early voting you should add +2 to the poll margin. The Clinton ground game is looking like being more formidable than the famed Obama one. And with RNC bailing on Trump and moving money to down ballot races expect to see there being a massive discrepancy in late minute advertising and GOTV operations.

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Post by inimino »

AvenueIngres wrote: post #92
inimino wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tech leans liberal and highly-educated, demographically not a good fit for Trump.

Because voting behaviors and income levels are highly correlated. Stop right there if you believe that people dislike Trump because they are "smarter". It is a cheap to make you feel good about yourself.

I'm just pointing out demographics, no need to read into it more than what I said.

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Post by rconti »

bobsgame wrote: post #38

I'm not very political and I haven't decided who to vote for yet, but I don't understand why the tech industry is so anti-Trump. He seems like a relatively sincere and smart guy to me, and some of his policies seem to be better for business. Is it because of tougher immigration laws? Are there other reasons based on his policies, or is it mostly just emotional?

I'd argue the opposition to Trump has very little to do with politics -- or, at least, no more so than the (generally Democrat) opposition to (generally Republican) candidates.

Most of the repulsion is due to his tone, his personality, his unpredictability, and how generally erratic he is.

Frankly, to the extent that you ascertain any coherent political principles he has, they're more moderate than the other candidates in the Republican primary.

On top of that, his tax plan, such as it is, would save many of us more money than that of many of the other candidates.

I think the reality is successful people hate uncertainty. If you're not doing well, you're more likely to roll the dice and say "what's the worst that could happen?"

People who have benefited from society as it is today (and, let's admit it, most of us in tech are in the top 5-10%) believe we have the most to lose from an erratic unpredictable leader.

And again, that's nothing to do with politics.

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Post by rorykoehler »

solipsism wrote: post #78
rorykoehler wrote: post #65

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I've always found the right-libertarian philosophy to be extremely confused. They want freedom to do whatever they want but they also want to base everything off of capitalism which by definition means you can't do whatever you want unless you're rich. It just doesn't make any sense (unless of course you're already a billionaire in which case your world is already quite libertarian in reality).

I have my problems with Libertarianism, but I don't understand what you don't understand. Libertarians think everyone should have freedom to do whatever one wants, but that says nothing of having power to do whatever one wants.

Freedom is not freedom without power to exercise said freedom.
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