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Thousands of webcam images have been found in the school district being sued

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Re: Thousands of webcam images have been found in the school district being sued

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post #7

Absolutely disgusting. I'm happy this case is being treated seriously and that (as it appears) there's the hope of action being taken against these school administrators. I've thought for years that parents place far too much trust in public-school staff.

It was a private school, wasn't it?

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post #11
post #7

Absolutely disgusting. I'm happy this case is being treated seriously and that (as it appears) there's the hope of action being taken against these school administrators. I've thought for years that parents place far too much trust in public-school staff.

It was a private school, wasn't it?

Public school. Harriton High School in Lower Merion School District

Re: Thousands of webcam images have been found in the school district being sued

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how do you get a society where something like this is uncovered, and half of the comments are abusing the family that uncovered it? oh, and the past tense of shine is shone :)

There is a tendency in society for people to blame the victim. You hear about rape crimes, and people ask what the girl was wearing with the idea that somehow she was 'asking for it.' I try to view the situation from both sides as much as possible, but I do not advocate blaming the vicitim in most circumstances.

In this particular case, it is stupid for the school system to even implement this policy in the first place. There are multiple issues with this other than the spying aspect.

(1) Why is the school letting the kids use laptops in the first place? What is wrong with desktop machines that are cheaper that stay at the school? Is there really a significant advantage given to learning or is it worth it to the taxpayer? I highly doubt a positive correlation exists between computer use and higher grades.

(2) They could simply have installed other tracking software or reported the IP address back to a server have the laptops found if stolen. They could have required some form of collateral or payment if a student lost a laptop or if the laptop was stolen. It does not make sense to justify such a method of tracking when other (better) solutions exist.

(3) The system was only 'activated' 42* times, but it took thousands of pictures? You only need one picture to identify someone. They were actively spying on these kids.

Re: Thousands of webcam images have been found in the school district being sued

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post #3

where there is smoke, there is fire. Sounds to me like what initially was an ability to view students working in school quickly digressed into illegal abuse of the deployment. That district's insurance company must be terrified at this point, because lawyers are going to come out of the woodwork to jump on this one.

One nude photo of a student changing, and this is going to turn to a shitstorm.

If so there should be jail-time involved for the person administering this system.

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I'm glad that somebody is still tracking this story, and it hasn't just dropped on the ground. Too often, it seems, a news story outrages us, but the furor quickly dies down. In the end, nobody even notices the ritual scapegoat. A little while back, somebody proposed here ( http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1183587 ) a web app that would allow us to follow a news story entire life. This reminds of that, and why it…

Thank you for this link... I have always wanted to do this.

Re: Thousands of webcam images have been found in the school district being sued

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Populus.

Translation: Who will guard the guards? The people.

Translation:

It saddens me that this is necessary. It wasn't long ago that Latin was part of the standard curriculum in grammar schools.

The people

For clarity: This is my answer, not the answer given by Plato (who argues that the guardians should guard themselves) or answer from Juvenal (who implicitly takes the position that this is an impossible problem).

Re: Thousands of webcam images have been found in the school district being sued

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Translation: Who will guard the guards? The people.

Translation: It saddens me that this is necessary. It wasn't long ago that Latin was part of the standard curriculum in grammar schools. The people For clarity: This is my answer, not the answer given by Plato (who argues that the guardians should guard themselves) or answer from Juvenal (who implicitly takes the position that this is an impossible problem).

Why should Latin be part of the standard curriculum?

Re: Thousands of webcam images have been found in the school district being sued

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One nude photo of a student changing, and this is going to turn to a shitstorm.

If so there should be jail-time involved for the person administering this system.

The presence of a nude photo shouldn't matter. America has lost sight of intent as a critical component in crime. The administrators of this system intentionally photographed minors in their bedrooms without their knowledge and without any consent. What the photos show is irrelevant. The obsession about the act over the intent is why we have highschool kids getting booked on child pornography charges for receiving naked pictures of their classmates while something like this hangs in the balance. This is a clear case of criminal privacy violation and misconduct towards minors, regardless what the pictures show.

Re: Thousands of webcam images have been found in the school district being sued

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Translation: It saddens me that this is necessary. It wasn't long ago that Latin was part of the standard curriculum in grammar schools. The people For clarity: This is my answer, not the answer given by Plato (who argues that the guardians should guard themselves) or answer from Juvenal (who implicitly takes the position that this is an impossible problem).

Why should Latin be part of the standard curriculum?

Because learning Latin trains the mind in logical thought.

Because studying Latin helps people learn about the grammatical structures which they use in their native tongue without understanding.

Because understanding Latin makes it much easier to learn any of the many Latin-influenced languages, or even to guess at what text means without knowing the language.

Because knowing Latin is a prerequisite for learning much of European history from primary sources.

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