What has happened down here is the winds have changed
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What has happened down here is the winds have changed
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#2Interesting use of the lyrics to Randy Newman's classic "Louisiana 1927"
If you only know about him as the guy who does Disney/Pixar music you're really missing out.
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#3Not sure who this guy is but he seems to have completely missed the point about what Fiske was saying. Sure the internet has heralded a new paradigm but that doesn't mean that we have to just accept the negatives. And the negatives with the internet are just as severe as the positives.
Go spend time on any politics forum for example and it is downright scary. Conspiracies run rampant and are unchecked, experts are personally vilified and viciously attacked and facts come second to feelings and opinions. And all evidence to date suggests that this is not helping society but actually making it more polarised and less cohesive.
And exactly the same thing has happened in other fields e.g. climate change. Legitimate criticism is always useful and welcomed but it needs to be constructive.
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#4> When the authors protest that none of the errors really matter, it makes you realize that, in these projects, the data hardly matter at all.
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#5Brutal. What a fantastic read, thanks.
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#7> When the authors protest that none of the errors really matter, it makes you realize that, in these projects, the data hardly matter at all.
I think my personal favorite is the Kahneman quote about how you have NO CHOICE BUT TO ACCEPT.
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#8Not sure who this guy is but he seems to have completely missed the point about what Fiske was saying. Sure the internet has heralded a new paradigm but that doesn't mean that we have to just accept the negatives. And the negatives with the internet are just as severe as the positives. Go spend time on any politics forum for example and it is downright scary. Conspiracies run rampant and are unchecked, experts are pe…
> facts come second to feelings and opinions
I think Fiske is arguing exactly for this point. Feelings are more important than data.
> this is not helping society but actually making it more polarised and less cohesive.
Do you think stuff like "ambivalent sexism theory" is making society more cohesive?
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#9Reading Susan Fiske's Wikipedia article makes this even more depressing. But please resist the urge to write off all of psychology, or even all of social psychology. Psychophysics and psychometrics both replicate very, very well, and they're not the only areas of psychology to do so. This is true even if you file biological psychology and neuroscience somewhere other than psychology. And social psychology makes sociology look really rigorous.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Fiske A recent quantitative analysis identifies her [Susan Fiske] as the 22nd most eminent researcher in the modern era of psychology (12th among living researchers, 2nd among women).
^ Diener, E., Oishi, S., & Park, J. (in press). An incomplete list of eminent psychologists in the modern era. Archives of Scientific Psychology
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#10> When the authors protest that none of the errors really matter, it makes you realize that, in these projects, the data hardly matter at all.
I think my personal favorite is the Kahneman quote about how you have NO CHOICE BUT TO ACCEPT.
I also find this quote remarkable, and not in a good way; but I recall that Kahneman's studies do replicate pretty well. (This is not to say that all their claimed implications are true - this is the part where "no choice but to accept" rubs me the wrong way.)