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Peer pressure’s effects are perhaps more powerful than we thought (2014)

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People sitting next to each other are more likely a group and going to perform the same action because of this. Two people decide to watch a movie together or two people decide to get lunch on the plane rather than before getting on.

They need to control for tickets bought together.

Re: Peer pressure’s effects are perhaps more powerful than we thought (2014)

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I drink once in my life. When I was 20. Why? I was interested in what being drunk felt like from a scientific perspective. Upon drinking all the liquor I could find in the house, the room began to spin and I didn't like the feeling of not being in control so I found the nearest couch and passed out. I often wonder if I am programmed differently than other people. Peer pressure has never really had any effect on me. W…

> Upon drinking all the liquor I could find in the house, the room began to spin and I didn't like the feeling of not being in control so I found the nearest couch and passed out. I don't know that evaluating drinking alcohol by getting hammered is really going to lead to a reasonable analysis. Most alcohol consumption is within reason. > I often wonder if I am programmed differently than other people. Peer pressure…

> If you don't want to drink or don't enjoy drinking, good for you. Do your own thing. But damn do you come across as feeling better than others for making that choice.

While I won't argue your other points, I will push back a bit on the comment above. Since you seemed to gather so much from a sentence, let me ask you this, why do you care?

If you are going to go out of your way to make a personal attack when nowhere in my expressing MY THOUGHTS did I make an attack on anyone, then that is your prerogative. You make some wild accusations based on me explaining an experience that is personal to me. While I am not sorry you took what I said in a negative light, it does shed light on how you view yourself as a person and others who don't agree with your line of thinking.I wish you the best in you finding who you are.

(edit) Apparently, some of you don't like my comment. Let me clean it up a bit for those downvoters.

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It gets worse. You are x% more likely to buy food if you just see or smell it, without even a "peer" enjoying it. Isn't that horrifying? That must be called something like food-pressure.

Survival instinct is an awful trait!

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Upon drinking all the liquor I could find in the house, the room began to spin and I didn't like the feeling of not being in control so I found the nearest couch and passed out. I don't know that evaluating drinking alcohol by getting hammered is really going to lead to a reasonable analysis. Most alcohol consumption is within reason. > I often wonder if I am programmed differently than other people. Peer pressure…

> If you don't want to drink or don't enjoy drinking, good for you. Do your own thing. But damn do you come across as feeling better than others for making that choice. While I won't argue your other points, I will push back a bit on the comment above. Since you seemed to gather so much from a sentence, let me ask you this, why do you care? If you are going to go out of your way to make a personal attack when nowhere…

Perhaps he is evaluating your assessment of drinking, and finding that you possibly have other-than-logical reasons for your conclusion? (Not that I agree.)

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as @tiglionabbit mentioned, this is priming. The term should be famous now thanks to the books "Thinking Fast and Slow" and "Nudge". Also probably a dose of recency bias. http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/31/psyching-us-...

I agree: nothing in the study seems to control for the simple proximity of the food or entertainment, compared to actually seeing someone enjoy it.

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It gets worse. You are x% more likely to buy food if you just see or smell it, without even a "peer" enjoying it. Isn't that horrifying? That must be called something like food-pressure.

Why would I buy invisible, non-smelling food?

because hungry?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not a naturally extroverted person, but when I drink I trend more towards that personality type. I spend less time overanalyzing things and I am more engaged with the people around me. In a way it "dumbs me down" and makes me think a bit less, which makes me more social, whereas the completely sober me would sit there lost in my own thoughts.

Am I right to understand that you think you couldn't behave like this without alcohol? Even if drugs may help in the short term to act ‚more open’ — everything you do when you're drunk is because of you and not caused by the drug! Be concious and open and people will be open to you. The world around you is a mirror of yourself!

I've certainly given this plenty of thought. The idea of alcohol slowing my mind down is only appealing in social situations and I've never found drinking in and of itself to be enjoyable. I consider it a "social enhancement" -- and of course, there's certainly a point where it becomes a hinderance.

Interestingly enough, I've definitely found myself in the same social state without alcohol on occasion, but alcohol is the only method I know of that can reliably induce it. It's definitely a crutch I would love to discard but at the moment there's no replacement.

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I drink once in my life. When I was 20. Why? I was interested in what being drunk felt like from a scientific perspective. Upon drinking all the liquor I could find in the house, the room began to spin and I didn't like the feeling of not being in control so I found the nearest couch and passed out. I often wonder if I am programmed differently than other people. Peer pressure has never really had any effect on me. W…

The same pressure exists when you go to a cafe where you are expected to drink coffee. I don't like coffee, and I would rather not acquire a caffeine habit like most adults have, so I just drink steamed milk instead. It's pretty much the same thing anyway. Of course people will comment about how it makes me look weird, weak, etc. and insinuate that my business meetings would be more favorable if I drank coffee like I'm supposed to, like a man, etc.

Anyway, I used to not drink alcohol either. I would go to parties and everyone would drink but me and it would be pretty boring. I'd try to start intelligent conversation but it's pretty hard for that to happen in a large group environment. I would always have this feeling that I wasn't being productive or doing anything important.

Now I drink a bit, and it dulls me enough to just put on a happy face and enjoy random company. I become less goal-oriented, more harmless. People respond positively to it. It's like a form of self-handicapping, making everyone more harmless and approachable, which explains why people get so uncomfortable if you don't participate.

I don't even always have to drink, though, since I can just act like I've been drinking now. I still don't like the taste of hard alcohol, but some drinks taste good, like Bailey's Irish Cream or Mike's Hard Lemonade, or a Pina Colada or a White Russian or an Amaretto Sour.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not a naturally extroverted person, but when I drink I trend more towards that personality type. I spend less time overanalyzing things and I am more engaged with the people around me. In a way it "dumbs me down" and makes me think a bit less, which makes me more social, whereas the completely sober me would sit there lost in my own thoughts.

Am I right to understand that you think you couldn't behave like this without alcohol? Even if drugs may help in the short term to act ‚more open’ — everything you do when you're drunk is because of you and not caused by the drug! Be concious and open and people will be open to you. The world around you is a mirror of yourself!

Is it only in the short term though? I think having positive social experiences while slightly drunk can improve your confidence in social situations in general.

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It gets worse. You are x% more likely to buy food if you just see or smell it, without even a "peer" enjoying it. Isn't that horrifying? That must be called something like food-pressure.

Around here we just call that Cinnabon.

brb, buying cinnabon.
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