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Re: An Open Source, Self-Hosted Heroku

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Post by matthewcford »

bglusman wrote: post #20

This is a great overview of the kubernetes/self-hosted PaaS landscape, but is also clearly a bit of marketing for Flynn. Flynn looks awesome, but also as/more awesome at a glance from my research and test runs is https://github.com/convox/rack which I got closer to working more quickly than Flynn, though it helped that Convox builds on top of docker-compose.yml files, which we were already using for development. For…

+1 for convox (https://convox.com/) we've been using it successfully for a number of our clients - it's easy to setup and run.

Re: An Open Source, Self-Hosted Heroku

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Post by bglusman »

ohstopitu wrote: post #26

I would love to have something like AWS Lambda that can be self hosted on something like this or Flynn. I know a lot of enterprises that are interested in using serverless arch (the framework serverless[0], not the literal definition of not using servers) but don't want to use AWS or other public cloud providers. [0]: https://serverless.com

Me too! We've been considering migrating off Lambda native to serverless or Chalice[1], but I keep thinking kubernetes is perfect for self-hosting this (or could be? Maybe?). I have one thing bookmarked in this direction, funcktion [2], and another that looks less... mature, open lambda [3] but would love to hear thoughts/other options if anyone has tried any of these.

[1] https://github.com/awslabs/chalice [2] https://github.com/fabric8io/funktion [3] http://www.open-lambda.org/

Re: An Open Source, Self-Hosted Heroku

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Post by josegonzalez »

Shrugs wrote: post #23
zachwill wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think a lot of us feel your same pain. Has anyone had success with sticking to Dokku for small side projects on DigitalOcean/Linode/etc?

I'd also back dokku for small side projects. I have 4 small slack bots installed on my reserved t2micro instance and I'm pretty happy with it.

Ah, if only people backed Dokku monetarily[1]. I'd probably get my ass in gear and release the multi-server functionality I prototyped over the summer.

Nice to see that others are finding Flynn useful though, there is plenty of space for PaaS offerings, and I truly hope they are financially successful.

[1] My experience in this area is that it's hard to get peple to pay for something that is free, which dis-incentivizes work/releases. I'm not surprised that many use the free version of Flynn, or that there were a ton of Heroku users that left once they stopped getting free resources 24/7. Dokku does take donations - https://opencollective.com/dokku - but to be quite honest, it's almost certainly nowhere near even 1% the amount of money we've saved our users.

Re: An Open Source, Self-Hosted Heroku

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Post by mbreedlove »

mcescalante wrote: post #32

I'm curious about any compelling reasons I should use something like Dokku or Flynn if I already prefer to manage my own infra with something like Ansible or Salt. Serious question, not a sarcastic rhetorical remark about this type of tool :)

I have a really extensive Ansible playbook for setting up my stack; nginx with extra modules, postgres, redis, and others like fail2ban. It all targets CentOS and also configures SELinux when appropriate. It all works well, until I want to do something that doesn't fit the mold that I've put myself in.

For example, I wanted to get off Google Analytics and try out Piwik, which uses PHP and requires MySQL, Postgres isn't supported. It would have been really difficult to write out a bunch of Ansible config for PHP and MySQL, both technologies I'm not familiar with and don't know their best practices. So, I'm still using Google analytics. A similar story happened when I wanted to host a Tor relay.

The allure of just pointing Dokku/Flynn to a pre-made Dockerfile for Piwik/Tor/ownCloud/etc. is pretty compelling. It let's me mix and match technologies without feeling like I'm polluting my server with a bunch of random services and tech. Containerization provides just enough separation to make me happy.

I'm not sure if Dokku or Flynn is the golden goose I'm after, but it seems like a step in the right direction.

I still use Ansible to do basic provisioning like users and SSH keys, setting up Fail2ban, and installing Dokku.

Re: An Open Source, Self-Hosted Heroku

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Post by heyrhett »

I looked into all the "Self-Hosted Heroku's" a few few months ago. One feature I found they all lacked is multitenancy, meaning that there is no security model in place to trust that you could host multiple pieces of code from different clients without them hacking each other.

I'm not talking about the deployment specifically, but rather isolating the code once it is deployed.

Am I missing something there?

Re: An Open Source, Self-Hosted Heroku

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Post by josegonzalez »

mcescalante wrote: post #32

I'm curious about any compelling reasons I should use something like Dokku or Flynn if I already prefer to manage my own infra with something like Ansible or Salt. Serious question, not a sarcastic rhetorical remark about this type of tool :)

Probably user experience. If you've nailed that with your own infra and made it easy to manage the lifecycle of services for your developers, then there isn't really any need to "reinvent the wheel". Infrastructure doesn't stop working just because there isn't any docker in it.

Re: An Open Source, Self-Hosted Heroku

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Post by tehwebguy »

josegonzalez wrote: post #35
Shrugs wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd also back dokku for small side projects. I have 4 small slack bots installed on my reserved t2micro instance and I'm pretty happy with it.

Ah, if only people backed Dokku monetarily[1]. I'd probably get my ass in gear and release the multi-server functionality I prototyped over the summer. Nice to see that others are finding Flynn useful though, there is plenty of space for PaaS offerings, and I truly hope they are financially successful. [1] My experience in this area is that it's hard to get peple to pay for something that is free, which dis-incentivi…

Jokes on us, Heroku side projects cost me like a grand since you guys launched :/
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