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Facebook Has Repeatedly Trended Fake News Since Firing Its Human Editors

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Post by craigyk »

forgottenpass wrote: post #192
vinhboy wrote: post #34

Thank god someone is writing about this. Recently I've been on the Yahoo's homepage a lot, because of Fantasy Football, and I noticed that a lot of the content is exactly like the article says, fake news from right-wing propaganda sites. And no, this is not me expressing my liberal bias. It's one thing to have opinionated headlines like the Huffington Post, it's another thing to have a completely fictional headline c…

And no, this is not me expressing my liberal bias. It's one thing to have opinionated headlines like the Huffington Post Yea, yeah it is. I'm a liberal and can see how HuffPo is trash. I might be willing to grant that HuffPo uses softer titles and hides their outrage/fear/hate-mongering slightly better. Maybe it's not just seeing them as more tame because they're more agreeable to one's politics. But as I was writing…

On a lark, I registered as a republican back in 2008 specifically so I could vote for Obama as a republican. That action, however, got me registered to all sorts of conservative mailing lists that initially boggled my mind with how full they are of pure sh*t. At first it was amusing how crackpot and deranged they could be, but it quickly just became sad and/or scary. Since I am fairly liberal, I am also registered to quite a few dem mailing lists, and the comparison isn't even close. The liberal mailing lists and news sources I might describe as having click-bait headlines, or be a bit too bleeding-heart for my tastes, but the conservative side of the aisle is almost pure fear, mis-truths and hate mongering.

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Post by cmdrfred »

hx87 wrote: post #263
cmdrfred wrote: post #258

Earlier quoted context omitted.

...and the goal is enriching her donors. As the other leaks show.

It's likely that they're all public positions--finance industry professionals are a 'public' like any other.

This was leaked. She was asked at the beginning of her campaign to release the transcripts of these speeches, she said "I'll look into it"[0]. If it was intended to be public this sure is a hell of a way to go about making it so. I can't honestly tell you how she actually feels, but I can tell you that at very least she is a serial liar.

[0]http://hillarytranscriptclock.com/

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Post by drewrv »

hueving wrote: post #132
jmspring wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Very largely his choice" ... then why hasn't the current nominee see a vote in congress?

Still his choice. Show me which supreme court justice wasn't selected by a president.

Bork was selected by a president.

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Post by the_watcher »

Glad I'm not the only one who noticed this, although what tipped me off was a trending story about the Warriors wanting to trade Andre Iguodala for Iman Shumpert, which was based on a blog post by a Cleveland high schooler (for those who don't follow basketball, it's a completely ludicrous idea).

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Post by craigyk »

gambler wrote: post #242
vinhboy wrote: post #34

Thank god someone is writing about this. Recently I've been on the Yahoo's homepage a lot, because of Fantasy Football, and I noticed that a lot of the content is exactly like the article says, fake news from right-wing propaganda sites. And no, this is not me expressing my liberal bias. It's one thing to have opinionated headlines like the Huffington Post, it's another thing to have a completely fictional headline c…

>And no, this is not me expressing my liberal bias. It's one thing to have opinionated headlines like the Huffington Post Yes, this is you expressing your liberal bias. Huffington Post is Breitbart of the left. They just use a slightly different strategy for pushing their propaganda. The end result is the same: readers with skewed, dysfunctional views of reality. You disagree? Okay. Which major left-wing website do y…

I don't think there are many "major" left-wing sites that are as full of hate and fear-mongering as a large population of their equivalents on the right. You are falling for the fallacy that both sides fall somewhat evenly on opposite sides of a normal distribution of "truth" or "balance". This is just not true. Changing times have pushed the overall country further right, but this process has also distilled the GOP down to a core of angry, white christian (males?). I don't think liberals are exaggerating that much when they say if Obama was white (or Hillary were a man), 20 years ago they might have been the republican candidates.

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Post by colemickens »

unityByFreedom wrote: post #235
colemickens wrote: post #88

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>Don't be surprised if that factors heavily in my decision. 1. How is that going to affect your decision? Who can you vote for that will ensure the SC seat goes to a conservative? 2. How do you feel about the unprecedented blocking of the President from doing this Constitutional duty of appoint SC justices for 9+ months? Or is that just a small price to pay to get your religious beliefs installed in the highest court…

> Or is that just a small price to pay to get your religious beliefs installed in the highest court in the land? I don't know why you were downvoted, but I would like to point out that many laws are based on religion, like marrying only one person, or not stealing and killing. We take these for granted because we grew up with them. So, I'm not sure the argument that they are "installing religious beliefs" does much t…

Nah, they just don't like me pointing out facts. Like the fact that this is Constitutional obstruction and is completely unprecented.

Too much cognitive dissonance for people who are probably already completely overwhelmed at this point in the cycle, given the turmoil on that side of the aisle.

That's why I won't get a reply from any of the small downvoters.

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Post by drewrv »

hueving wrote: post #134
gadders wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can't put Breitbart in the same category as the NYT, true, but you could put it in the same category as the Huffington Post, Daily Kos, Mother Jones etc.

The NYT editorial board put this on the front page of the paper: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/05/opinion/end-the-gun-epidem... They are very upfront about their biases, but they have biases nonetheless.

> The NYT editorial board...

The NYT editorial board is separate from the news desk, and the NYT makes clear what is news and what is opinion.

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Post by happyslobro »

Samis2001 wrote: post #247
happyslobro wrote: post #120

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I think their long term plan is to literally take over the entire internet, by replacing every feature of every successful category of website. The free Facebook-net for India and Africa, this Facebook for enterprise thing, the embedded games, video... I fully expect to see Facebook for schools soon, followed by diplomas and then degrees granted by a Facebook online university. Maybe they will even try to roll out a…

I don't think such a system would be a technocracy - it would seem to be more along the lines of a Corporatocracy ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatocracy )

I guess. But the political moderators in the corporatocracy would all get laid off once they finished training the AIs. Then it would count as a technocracy.

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Post by welanes »

ssully wrote: post #197
forgottenpass wrote: post #192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And no, this is not me expressing my liberal bias. It's one thing to have opinionated headlines like the Huffington Post Yea, yeah it is. I'm a liberal and can see how HuffPo is trash. I might be willing to grant that HuffPo uses softer titles and hides their outrage/fear/hate-mongering slightly better. Maybe it's not just seeing them as more tame because they're more agreeable to one's politics. But as I was writing…

Huff Post is complete trash, but there is a big difference between fabricated stories and garbage presentation.

Well if we're comparing Breitbart and HuffPo I'd say that they're equally mendacious.

Breitbart trades in hyperbole - they will tell us straight up that refugees are mugging grannies which proves Europe has fallen or some such.

HuffPo peddles distortion - their articles come wrapped in intentionally misleading statistics, righteous indignation and snark.

Both terrible. Both hugely popular. I weep for the web.

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Post by jonah »

DanielBMarkham wrote: post #154
angry-hacker wrote: post #104

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For someone outside of U.S, both right (breitbart etc.) and left (huff etc.) are propaganda all the way down . It is your left bias. And the people on other political spectrum feel the same but other way around. Watching American elections is like seeing a freak show. I don't understand who are those people who can support any of the candidates or the media.

Agreed. I'm in the U.S., and I constantly scan most of the major news source and commentary headlines. It's a cesspool out there. For a bit of history as I remember it, for what it's worth: in the 80s and 90s, I think, right-wing think tanks started providing a lot of research and background material. Of course these were slanted to right-wing views, but for the most part, unless you were really digging for stuff, it…

If you haven't already, this Harper's piece from 2004[0] might be interesting to you.

Here is the first publicly available mirror I came across.[1]

[0] Tentacles of Rage The Republican propaganda mill, a brief history

LEWIS H LAPHAM / Harpers Magazine v.309, n.1852, September 2004

[1] http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2004/Republican-Propaganda1s...

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