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Facebook Has Repeatedly Trended Fake News Since Firing Its Human Editors

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Re: Facebook Has Repeatedly Trended Fake News Since Firing Its Human Editors

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post #34

Thank god someone is writing about this. Recently I've been on the Yahoo's homepage a lot, because of Fantasy Football, and I noticed that a lot of the content is exactly like the article says, fake news from right-wing propaganda sites. And no, this is not me expressing my liberal bias. It's one thing to have opinionated headlines like the Huffington Post, it's another thing to have a completely fictional headline c…

Here's Glenn Greenwald, who can hardly be accused of being right-wing or a Trump supporter, on media bias: The U.S. media is essentially 100 percent united, vehemently, against Trump, and preventing him from being elected president. I don’t have an actual problem with that because I share the premises on which it is based about why he poses such extreme dangers. But that doesn’t mean that as a journalist, or even jus…

I was curious about this Greenwald quote, which does not really match my perception of recent media coverage, so I went and looked up the date[0]: the article in which the quote appears was published in July. Greenwald's context here is mostly (or entirely? I'm not sure when the interview itself was conducted) based on the primary process, which certainly seemed strongly anti-Trump, to the extent that many outlets even refused to believe what the polls were telling them [1].

[0] http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/interrogatio...

[1] http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-i-acted-like-a-pundi...

Re: Facebook Has Repeatedly Trended Fake News Since Firing Its Human Editors

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I know I might be shooting myself in the foot here by posting this.

I got so annoyed by Facebook's banal trending news suggestions that I wrote a script to flag every trending news item as offensive (on the premise that it is the flag most likely to have lasting effect). I never see trending news on Facebook anymore after running that for a while.

Re: Facebook Has Repeatedly Trended Fake News Since Firing Its Human Editors

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post #96

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Some people say it's impossible to have unbiased news. Of course this is true in a trivial sense, in that anything written by a human with intent to be interesting to read is likely to have some bias. And of course one can bias the news simply by choosing what to report and not report (eg if all you report are all the things fmr Pres. Bush did wrong, then the audience will get a bad impression). However, there is abs…

>> When you read 3 different versions of the same news story by BBC, NPR, and NYT (for example), then hopefully the biases sort of cancel out and you get something closer to the truth. You list three left-leaning news organisations, and expect their biases to cancel out? Wouldn't they reinforce each other?

Do you mean establishment leaning rather than left-leaning, that's what I heard from trump and bernie people.

Re: Facebook Has Repeatedly Trended Fake News Since Firing Its Human Editors

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>Huff is full of titles Trump is sexual predator without facts, just talks. We have, on record, him describing sexual assault. With his own words. On the other hand, some of the people who now are claiming Bill is a rapist once testified under oath that he did _not_ rape them. On top of the fact that there is zero evidence in favor of that statement. That's the difference. And you would definitely know this if you we…

We have him on record joking around with someone about actions he didn't take. It's hardly the confession the breathless Twitter hordes want it to be, not to ruin your emotionally resonating state of being

When you have multiple claims against you and you describe in detail taking actions that you've denied, it's no longer "joking" (Honestly, who jokes about stuff like that?) At that point it's called corroborating evidence.

Thinking logically and taking all contextual evidence into account can be hard, but it's worth the effort instead of rationalizing things away while simultaneously debasing yourself. Based on your profile, you don't really seem to care, so I won't bother anymore.

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> You make it sound illogical. > As a religious conservative, I do really want that supreme court seat. That factors heavily in the decision. Sorry, that's my bias seeping in. I respect your choice. > The President has to really ask for permission for everything else (laws, budgets, wars, etc.), but justice nomination is very largely his choice. Don't be surprised if that factors heavily in my decision. Not nuclear.…

>Personally I think the risks posed by Trump with his thumb on the nuclear button are greater than the lives saved by repealing abortion rights. I'm not sure if this was a subtle way to imply that, although the risk of Trump using the bomb is negligible, it's still greater than zero, which is the number of lives you consider lost to abortion. Impressive accidental troll. :) Realistically, what evidence do you have th…

> Realistically, what evidence do you have that Trump has any more likelihood of using a nuclear bomb against the wishes of congress than Hillary? Has he shown an inclination towards mass murder in other scenarios?

Trump reportedly asked three times why we could not use nuclear weapons in a private briefing.

More importantly, he threatens to change the landscape of our deployed military so drastically that the moves would create opportunities for non-allies to take more aggressive positions against our allies.

If we failed to protect our allies, the US economy would tank, due to all the outstanding treasuries.

> Did he vote for the Iraq war?

Obviously Trump could not have voted on the Iraq war. That's an invalid question.

Re: Facebook Has Repeatedly Trended Fake News Since Firing Its Human Editors

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And hey, let's not forget: Trump hasn't been arrested, tried, or convicted, nor have the supposed victims filed police reports.

But plenty of lawsuits have been filed. Just saying.

Well, just saying, anyone can sue anyone for any reason in the US.

Re: Facebook Has Repeatedly Trended Fake News Since Firing Its Human Editors

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post #34

Thank god someone is writing about this. Recently I've been on the Yahoo's homepage a lot, because of Fantasy Football, and I noticed that a lot of the content is exactly like the article says, fake news from right-wing propaganda sites. And no, this is not me expressing my liberal bias. It's one thing to have opinionated headlines like the Huffington Post, it's another thing to have a completely fictional headline c…

Here's Glenn Greenwald, who can hardly be accused of being right-wing or a Trump supporter, on media bias: The U.S. media is essentially 100 percent united, vehemently, against Trump, and preventing him from being elected president. I don’t have an actual problem with that because I share the premises on which it is based about why he poses such extreme dangers. But that doesn’t mean that as a journalist, or even jus…

This is extremely obvious if you are non-partisan. Right now, there are huge issues about Clinton just released by wikileaks[0] she said that she has a "public position" and a "private position" to placate a room full of bankers (Read: Hey guys I won't really do any of that Bernie Sanders stuff, I'm just saying it for votes)

CNN's top story: Trump said "grab her in the pussy" in 2005

[0]http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/oct/12/top-10-hilla...

Re: Facebook Has Repeatedly Trended Fake News Since Firing Its Human Editors

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>Huff is full of titles Trump is sexual predator without facts, just talks. We have, on record, him describing sexual assault. With his own words. On the other hand, some of the people who now are claiming Bill is a rapist once testified under oath that he did _not_ rape them. On top of the fact that there is zero evidence in favor of that statement. That's the difference. And you would definitely know this if you we…

> On the other hand, some of the people who now are claiming Bill is a rapist once testified under oath that he did _not_ rape them. Yet other women have consistently claimed over decades that Clinton sexually assaulted them. And today women are coming forward accusing Trump of sexual assault. There seems to be very little difference; both men have probably assaulted women in the past and abused their power to get aw…

There is nothing arbitrary about evidence based statements. Everything I stated is completely based on evidence from multiple sources, from the congressional investigations to reporters.

So, you can remove your disingenuous label of "my political agenda." just because you want to falsely equivocate things based on what you feel is probably true from hearsay and claims, instead of what is actually known based on evidence and legal testimony.

Re: Facebook Has Repeatedly Trended Fake News Since Firing Its Human Editors

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> The top Breitbart headline ... is willfully [sic] inciting anti-immigrant sentiment by taking numbers out of context. > The number is true but the inference is false. How are the numbers taken out of context? In your opinion, how would that headline read if the numbers weren't taken out of context? Or does the mere act of publishing the headlines (at all) make Breitbart guilty of taking the numbers out of context i…

> How are the numbers taken out of context? The numbers lack context in that they don't specify a rate, merely a value. It makes it sound like 70K women are attacked each year by undocumented immigrants, when the reality is that the number is closer to 1.27K per year since 1955. Let's do some back of the napkin math: There are about 11 million undocumented immigrants in the US, meaning that the rate of sexual assault…

The numbers don't claim to specify a rate - that was your inference.

Also, your numbers seem to demonstrate the exact dishonesty that you accuse Breitbart of doing.

The number cited for illegal aliens is the number of arrests.

The number you cite for the general population is a victimization survey which includes a lot of alleged rapes that were never reported to the police. (In fact, I can't even figure out if all of them meet the legal definition for rape.)

According to your report [1], 12% of rapes were reported to the police. If every single rape report results in an arrest (hint: they don't), that eliminates your 10x factor right there.

When reading Breitbart, you seem to draw incorrect inferences from cited statistics. And when digging up your own data, you also seem to draw incorrect inferences. Consider the possibility that the problem here isn't Breitbart.

(Note: I hate Trump. I favor open borders and think we should let Mexicans in even if they are more rapey than Americans. In fact I have nothing but positive feelings towards Mexicans - their food is tasty and their women are beautiful. I'm just pointing out bad reasoning.)

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