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The Nobel Prize in Literature 2016 awarded to Bob Dylan

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Re: The Nobel Prize in Literature 2016 awarded to Bob Dylan

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Post by stinkytaco »

kriro wrote: post #64
coldtea wrote: post #30

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> There's no doubt he did this, but ... do songs count as literature? They should. Literature and poetry started from rhapsodies, sagas, and other forms of song-based storytelling, and it's not very good that it diverted so much to some kind of literary ivory tower.

I'm curious. Should screenplays also be eligible for the nobel in literature?

Several dramatists have won the Nobel in Literature. Harold Pinter, Samuel Beckett, Elfriede Jelinek, and probably some I'm not remembering.

EDIT: Eugene O'Neil, Jacinto Benavente, Dario Fo

Re: The Nobel Prize in Literature 2016 awarded to Bob Dylan

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Post by ptaipale »

stinkytaco wrote: post #68
ptaipale wrote: post #44

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Songs are poetry, poetry is literature. But then again, remember that Sinatra vs. Bieber meme... http://weknowmemes.com/2012/02/music-what-happened/

They put coffee in their coffee in Brazil. It suppose it goes without saying, but that meme is some selective criticism.

Of course. Current youth generation's pop songs are always bad (mostly).

"The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. "

- Socrates, circa 470 BC

Re: The Nobel Prize in Literature 2016 awarded to Bob Dylan

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Post by georgespencer »

kriro wrote: post #64
coldtea wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There's no doubt he did this, but ... do songs count as literature? They should. Literature and poetry started from rhapsodies, sagas, and other forms of song-based storytelling, and it's not very good that it diverted so much to some kind of literary ivory tower.

I'm curious. Should screenplays also be eligible for the nobel in literature?

And should novels be eligible for songwriting awards?

Re: The Nobel Prize in Literature 2016 awarded to Bob Dylan

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Post by stinkytaco »

redwood wrote: post #23

A less well known but powerful Dylan song, sung by his then lover Joan Baez (from Palo Alto) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUZGGFOV6FM With God on Our Side (Live 1966)

As part of the Bootleg Series, Dylan released recordings of the Rolling Thunder Review tour where this song features. It's one of my favorite live albums and Dylan at probably the most satisfied and happy point of his career.

Re: The Nobel Prize in Literature 2016 awarded to Bob Dylan

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Post by stinkytaco »

Overtonwindow wrote: post #16
PaulRobinson wrote: post #14

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No. No, you were not.

Bless that man. It saddens me that when I finally saw him in concert his voice had long since gone.

I've seen him in concert twice, once about ten years ago and another about 15, and though he didn't sound great, they were still great concerts. Lots of singing along and crowd pandering. He was clearly enjoying himself and so did we.

Re: The Nobel Prize in Literature 2016 awarded to Bob Dylan

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jcrei wrote: post #5

Come writers and critics Who prophesize with your pen And keep your eyes wide The chance won't come again And don't speak too soon For the wheel's still in spin And there's no tellin' who That it's namin' For the loser now Will be later to win For the times they are a-changin'.

Oh, but you who philosophize disgrace and criticize all fears

Bury the rag deep in your face

For now's the time for your tears

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