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Re: Lime Text – Open Source Sublime Text alternative (2014)

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Post by dilap » Thu, Oct 13, 2016, 5:18 AM UTC

As an emacs addict/user, what I really want is a credible alternative to that cockroach of editors.

Price of admission: run in a terminal, run graphically, run on every possible system, be open source, be ridiculously, easily extensible.

What a successor might add:

Not be riddled with bugs.

Not be ridiculously, terribly bad at actually displaying text (quickly, smoothly, large amounts).

Not be extended in a language that's so slow that most "intelligent" modes end up being piles of half-correct regex hacks.

Not not care about correctness, in general.

Hop to it, dear idealistic genius whiz-kid reader!

Or fund me, overly-$-laden startup lottery winner. I'll take a crack at it.

Re: Lime Text – Open Source Sublime Text alternative (2014)

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Post by cbHXBY1D » Thu, Oct 13, 2016, 5:19 AM UTC

cyberferret wrote: post #12

Funny - Sublime has been taking a pounding from all angles over the years, but still seems to be bouncing back off the ropes and swinging hard. This project looked familiar, and I seem to recall coming across it a while back. As others have pointed out, the blog hasn't been updated since 2014, so it looks like a stalled project. Another points victory to Sublime perhaps? ;)

It's hard for these other Electron based editors to completely replace Sublime when they are so much slower. People say that they don't notice how slow Atom or VS Code are, but try running them on a 5+ year old laptop like mine.

Re: Lime Text – Open Source Sublime Text alternative (2014)

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Post by nitemice » Thu, Oct 13, 2016, 5:21 AM UTC

charlesetc wrote: post #16

People might be interested in this one too - got a weird name, and it's still under development, but it seems pretty good http://www.vim.org/

Really, this is more like [NeoVim](https://github.com/neovim/neovim), in the way it's structured and with its aim to rebuild its namesake in a modular fashion with swappable UIs.

Re: Lime Text – Open Source Sublime Text alternative (2014)

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Post by pjmlp » Thu, Oct 13, 2016, 5:23 AM UTC

cbHXBY1D wrote: post #22

cyberferret wrote: post #12

Funny - Sublime has been taking a pounding from all angles over the years, but still seems to be bouncing back off the ropes and swinging hard. This project looked familiar, and I seem to recall coming across it a while back. As others have pointed out, the blog hasn't been updated since 2014, so it looks like a stalled project. Another points victory to Sublime perhaps? ;)

It's hard for these other Electron based editors to completely replace Sublime when they are so much slower. People say that they don't notice how slow Atom or VS Code are, but try running them on a 5+ year old laptop like mine.

I only use VSCode because currently it has the best experience for Rust.

Re: Lime Text – Open Source Sublime Text alternative (2014)

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Post by Camillo » Thu, Oct 13, 2016, 5:24 AM UTC

jakobegger wrote: post #20

Something about the phrase "Successor to Sublime" rubs me the wrong way. It's condescending and misleading. I initially thought, did the author of Sublime open source his work like the author of Textmate? But no, it looks like this looks like an independent project, and since Sublime is still updated, can there be a successor yet?

It's what the French call a "dick move".

Re: Lime Text – Open Source Sublime Text alternative (2014)

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Post by izym » Thu, Oct 13, 2016, 5:24 AM UTC

cbHXBY1D wrote: post #22

cyberferret wrote: post #12

Funny - Sublime has been taking a pounding from all angles over the years, but still seems to be bouncing back off the ropes and swinging hard. This project looked familiar, and I seem to recall coming across it a while back. As others have pointed out, the blog hasn't been updated since 2014, so it looks like a stalled project. Another points victory to Sublime perhaps? ;)

It's hard for these other Electron based editors to completely replace Sublime when they are so much slower. People say that they don't notice how slow Atom or VS Code are, but try running them on a 5+ year old laptop like mine.

This one isn't Electron based, but rather it uses QML (i.e. Qt Quick).

Re: Lime Text – Open Source Sublime Text alternative (2014)

#27

Post by MildlySerious » Thu, Oct 13, 2016, 5:26 AM UTC

dilap wrote: post #21

As an emacs addict/user, what I really want is a credible alternative to that cockroach of editors. Price of admission: run in a terminal, run graphically, run on every possible system, be open source, be ridiculously, easily extensible. What a successor might add: Not be riddled with bugs. Not be ridiculously, terribly bad at actually displaying text (quickly, smoothly, large amounts). Not be extended in a language…

A possible (very early) start for this could be https://github.com/google/xi-editor

UIs and actual functionality are completely separate implementations. Loading and displaying text are entirely decoupled, so the display doesn't have to care if the actual file is 10kb or 2gb in size.

Re: Lime Text – Open Source Sublime Text alternative (2014)

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Post by jdefr89 » Thu, Oct 13, 2016, 5:28 AM UTC

dilap wrote: post #21

As an emacs addict/user, what I really want is a credible alternative to that cockroach of editors. Price of admission: run in a terminal, run graphically, run on every possible system, be open source, be ridiculously, easily extensible. What a successor might add: Not be riddled with bugs. Not be ridiculously, terribly bad at actually displaying text (quickly, smoothly, large amounts). Not be extended in a language…

As a Vim addict/user. All I really want is a bit more modernization. I mean single threaded text editor in 2016.. NeoVim is supposed to be the savior.. But I don't feel like it gets a lot of support...

Re: Lime Text – Open Source Sublime Text alternative (2014)

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Post by dilap » Thu, Oct 13, 2016, 5:31 AM UTC

MildlySerious wrote: post #27

dilap wrote: post #21

As an emacs addict/user, what I really want is a credible alternative to that cockroach of editors. Price of admission: run in a terminal, run graphically, run on every possible system, be open source, be ridiculously, easily extensible. What a successor might add: Not be riddled with bugs. Not be ridiculously, terribly bad at actually displaying text (quickly, smoothly, large amounts). Not be extended in a language…

A possible (very early) start for this could be https://github.com/google/xi-editor UIs and actual functionality are completely separate implementations. Loading and displaying text are entirely decoupled, so the display doesn't have to care if the actual file is 10kb or 2gb in size.

super-early-days, but this looks philosophically very much in the right place.

Re: Lime Text – Open Source Sublime Text alternative (2014)

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Post by RKoutnik » Thu, Oct 13, 2016, 5:33 AM UTC

Given that the goal for the plugins API is "I’ll probably never implement this 100%, only the api bits I need for the plugins I use." [0] I don't see this getting traction. Piggypacking off an existing ecosystem is a great way to bootstrap a project but so long as it's wack-a-mole to discover if all your plugins work, this remains a pet project in my mind.

[0] https://github.com/limetext/lime/wiki/Goals