Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List • Hacker News Board

Re: Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List

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Post by oelmekki » Wed, Oct 12, 2016, 4:17 PM UTC

forgetsusername wrote: post #224

oelmekki wrote: post #157

In the end, the licence owners will lose. Spotify makes it useless to download music illegally because it's so much easier and pleasant to use spotify. If they don't want to play fair game with Netflix, people will just keep / start again downloading the movies they want to watch, because it will be easier.

> Spotify makes it useless to download music illegally because it's so much easier and pleasant to use spotify. Spotify has to pay for the content they're streaming. As of now, they're losing money with that model. You might like it as a customer, but content owners and creators don't seem to, and they hold the cards.

> As of now, they're losing money with that model

Indeed, just seen that they were not profitable at least in May [1]

> You might like it as a customer

That's something :) Let's wait and see how they do in the next five years.

[1] http://www.fool.com/investing/2016/05/27/spotifys-annual-rep...

Re: Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List

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Post by jccalhoun » Wed, Oct 12, 2016, 4:17 PM UTC

donretag wrote: post #315

jccalhoun wrote: post #81

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I have noticed a lack of black and white movies on netflix. I know Hulu has the Criterion Collection which has some prestige black and white movies but there are tons of them that seem like they should be cheap for netflix to license. Has TMC bought them all up and refuse to license them to netflix or does netflix think no one wants to watch black and white movies?

How many B&W movies have made it to the public domain? Why are companies not streaming public domain movies? There are many classics available for free.

On roku there are tons of channels that can be installed that stream public domain movies. Unfortunately, the channels I've seen tend to have poor quality prints.

Re: Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List

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Post by sp332 » Wed, Oct 12, 2016, 4:17 PM UTC

jackfrodo wrote: post #314

bcrescimanno wrote: post #304

TL;DR: A former Netflix employee isn't surprised because films very little business sense for Netflix. Former Netflix employee here--though I left in late 2013. I remember sitting at a company meeting and Reed Hastings explaining that AAA film content was never going to be the bread-and-butter for Netflix for several reasons. Most importantly: Between traditional, "linear" television and Netflix, the experience that…

What is the definition of "binge-watching"? For me, that would be three episodes of Bojack Horseman, or about 75 minutes of content. On the other hand, I would happily watch a Tarantino film, say 140 minutes, in one sitting. I guess it doesn't count as a "binge" but it keeps me in front of Netflix longer than a television show.

Binge-watching is putting on a show and leaving it on for a good chunk of the day. Think watching a whole season of a show over a weekend, so at least 4 hours per day. And you can do this with every original Netflix series from the first day the show is launched - you don't have to wait a week per episode.

Re: Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List

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Post by wildmusings » Wed, Oct 12, 2016, 4:19 PM UTC

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #327

wildmusings wrote: post #274

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Or you can pay a reasonable price to rent on iTunes and Amazon Prime. Stop pretending that you pirate because it's a "better experience". You pirate because it's cheaper to steal other people's hard work than to pay a fair price for it.

I may know a friend who torrented a film they had on DVD because their DVD player broke and it was faster and cheaper than ripping it themselves. This is a tort again in the UK, it wasn't then. Also, most people would be happy to pay the actors and crew a very healthy wage but baulk at paying to add DRM and several layers of executives whose function appears to be to make it as hard as possible to actually watch the…

>Also, most people would be happy to pay the actors and crew a very healthy wage but baulk at paying to add DRM and several layers of executives whose function appears to be to make it as hard as possible to actually watch the content without paying again and again and who extract far more than their share of the revenue.

Sure, all of the people torrenting are really just protesting as the unjust profits made by studio executives. This is laughable.

>The family in question used a hacked Wii to watch DVDs, but the DRM prevented half of them from working.

And a perfectly functional DVD player is like $20.

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>What's your second point? That just because it only costs a week's groceries to buy a DVD player it was wrong to torrent a work that has been paid for and only can't be consumed due to DRM? Do you find that use immoral?

Copyright becomes unenforceable if you can just go buy a physical DVD with cash whenever you get sued or warned for pirating something.

Re: Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List

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Post by eatbitseveryday » Wed, Oct 12, 2016, 4:20 PM UTC

dorfsmay wrote: post #313

eatbitseveryday wrote: post #154

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You may have to find a manual solution. Have you tried spawning a VPS in the US and connecting to it via Shadowsocks?[1] I apparently can sign up for an account when routed through such a setup and Netflix doesn't seem to think it's a VPN (this was a VPS hosted in Germany, however). I can give more details if interested. [1] https://shadowsocks.org/

Do you then have to create a separate account "from the US"? Netflix made sense when we could watch movies from any countries, not just the US. A lot of smaller countries would have movies not available in US/Canada but still in English. Also: I'm happy to pay for content, but if I have to hack my way around to the point that it's harder than pirating...

> Do you then have to create a separate account "from the US"?

I have not tried, as I do not actually have an account with them. But I would be curious to know the outcomes.

> I'm happy to pay for content, but if I have to hack my way around to the point that it's harder than pirating...

Well, at least using an IP that doesn't represent your legal domain isn't [considered] illegal (yet?) [1]

[1] http://www.theglobeandmail.com/technology/what-is-a-vpn-are-...

Re: Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List

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Post by pbhjpbhj » Wed, Oct 12, 2016, 4:20 PM UTC

shocks wrote: post #60

Offtopic, but does anyone know of a good solution for ragged line balancing on the web? On desktop, the last word of the title ("List") on this page is on it's own line. Infuriating! Haha. edit: This comment definitely deserves downvotes. Definitely.

It's wildly off-topic ... https://github.com/adobe-webplatform/balance-text might help, or https://codepen.io/samirsr/pen/sojCi .

Re: Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List

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Post by sunstone » Wed, Oct 12, 2016, 4:20 PM UTC

bcrescimanno wrote: post #304

TL;DR: A former Netflix employee isn't surprised because films very little business sense for Netflix. Former Netflix employee here--though I left in late 2013. I remember sitting at a company meeting and Reed Hastings explaining that AAA film content was never going to be the bread-and-butter for Netflix for several reasons. Most importantly: Between traditional, "linear" television and Netflix, the experience that…

Works for me. Decent content with no advertising is really the killer combination. Doesn't have to be movies.

Re: Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List

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Post by izacus » Wed, Oct 12, 2016, 4:21 PM UTC

SolaceQuantum wrote: post #137

JoeAltmaier wrote: post #119

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I know; I have to keep bringing it up because people keep pretending they're owed entertainment. This entitled generation is just disappointing.

This kind of piracy existed before. Remember sharing music CDs with friends? Remember libraries over buying books? Remember letting your friends borrow your comics or reading photocopies?

Well, our corporate overlords are trying really hard to make these things a criminal offense in the future. How DARE you share a piece of content you bought with another? The licensing terms forbid it!

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Post by achr2 » Wed, Oct 12, 2016, 4:21 PM UTC

dragonwriter wrote: post #328

bcrescimanno wrote: post #304

TL;DR: A former Netflix employee isn't surprised because films very little business sense for Netflix. Former Netflix employee here--though I left in late 2013. I remember sitting at a company meeting and Reed Hastings explaining that AAA film content was never going to be the bread-and-butter for Netflix for several reasons. Most importantly: Between traditional, "linear" television and Netflix, the experience that…

Do people not binge watch movies on Netflix because of something inherent in the form, or because Netflix doesn't make continuous play of related sets of movjrs, especially serial franchises (where it would make sense just as it does for TV series) possible, both because it doesn't support it as the default (or even an optional) mode in the UI as it does for TV series and because it also rarely has whole franchises i…

It's definitely more in the first category, and the psychology behind watching shows vs movies:

1) We live in a multitasking world where people are half watching netflix and half on their phone. TV plots typically develop in smaller chunks, requiring less attention.

2) Most people do not set out to binge watch multiple hours of netflix, but instead get caught up in the shows. Movies feel like a larger commitment, even though many times people watch for the same total length of time.

3) Binge watching often happens because the TV show model is to often end on a cliff hanger.

Re: Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List

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Post by izacus » Wed, Oct 12, 2016, 4:23 PM UTC

shadowfiend wrote: post #125

reitanqild wrote: post #109

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I for one would be happy with either: Pay per view (multiple sources ok) Or All-you-can-x from one place like Spotify What I don't like is paying monthly to a number of services. Also (honest question, I might send money Apples way if the answer is yes:) Do iTunes work standaloneon Windows (and preferably Linux) and can I legally watch stuff there even if I sit somewhere in Europe?

As far as I now, the answer is yes to Windows (not Linux), and you can legally watch US stuff in Europe as long as your iTunes account is associated with a US account as far as I know (98% certain I did exactly this a couple of years ago). However, iTunes is only pay-per-view for some films, and hasn't been pay-per-view for TV episodes for some time. TV episodes you must buy (either one at a time for typically ~$3 or…

> As far as I now, the answer is yes to Windows (not Linux), and you can legally watch US stuff in Europe as long as your iTunes account is associated with a US account as far as I know (98% certain I did exactly this a couple of years ago).

Sorry, but according to content right owners (Sony being named among the chief ones), that's not legal or acceptable. If they say you're not allowed to watch a movie in EU, it's copyright infrigement for you to pay for it in EU via US iTunes account.

Welcome to 21st century.