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Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List

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Re: Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List

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post #167

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Devils Advocate: The alternative of "not consuming" digital products is less valuable to creators than "consuming for free." Allow me to reference a very famous Bill Gates quote on Chinese piracy of software: "And as long as they're going to steal it, we want them to steal ours. They'll get sort of addicted, and then we'll somehow figure out how to collect sometime in the next decade." There are more ways to monetize…

I don't know. I think there is a difference between applications and platforms like Adobe Software and Windows which often get pirated but at times hugely cost prohibitive to new entrants (e.g. students, young people) vs pirating movies/shows. I'm persistently left unconvinced by moral arguments on show/movie piracy, especially in an age where there's no shortage of new content being created, be it on YouTube, your l…

I'm not trying to make a moral argument one way or the other.

My point is strictly relating to the business end result of the following three alternatives:

1) DO pay for and DO consume digital product.

2) NOT pay for but DO consume digital product.

3) NOT pay for and NOT consume digital product.

Only alternatives #1 and #2 provides a way to monetize the consumer, either via direct monetization of the product (ie pay-per-view) or indirect monetization (ie merchandizing, willingness to pay for new versions of the product in the future, etc), or by leveraging that consumer as a marketing agent to bring in additional consumers (ie that consumer's best friend ended up being monetizable when previously they would have never heard of your media property).

Because there is no expense to the business when a digital product is pirated, then intelligent business management would always prefer option 2 to option 3. That said, business management cannot publicly endorse this preference without the threat of converting #1 consumers into #2 consumers (which are still more valuable than #3 but arguably less than #1).

Re: Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List

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The analogy between shoplifting and copyright infrigement gets really, really old.

I know; I have to keep bringing it up because people keep pretending they're owed entertainment. This entitled generation is just disappointing.

It's just a bad analogy. It sounds silly if you replace movies with physical goods.

If you, unauthorized, print out a photo and hang it in your apartment to enjoy you've probably committed IP infringement of some kind.

Have you committed theft though? Is it the same severity as pickpocketing someone's wallet/purse?

It's important to distinguish because it informs how we should treat these things, legally.

Re: Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List

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post #169

Surely I'm not the only person who isn't interested in watching IMDB's favourite content. Give me the 6 outta 10s, that's my bread and butter. I'd rather be surprised and discover a personal favourite or have something on the TV that I won't be expected to dissect with the nerds at work.

The movies in the 7's are more consistently appealing to me than the top 250. Some movies just become "great" so everyone gives them 10's or are more receptive to love them I think. There are some movies I love in the top 250 but also a lot of movies just get buoyed up from their "greatness." Just glancing at the top 10 I honestly didn't like Pulp Fiction at all and didn't feel the Godfathers were special. I almost a…

> didn't feel the Godfathers were special

Read a few reviews of the Godfather. There is subtlety to the characters and a slower pace that modern day viewers may not appreciate as we aren't used to this--rather many of us have become accustomed to blunt hit you over the head plots and may likely miss much of what Godfather is about.

Regardless, your point stands. We all have our own tastes & preferences.

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Meanwhile in the warez land everything is just 1 click away, hassle free and non-DRM encumbered.

This is definitely not true. If you're looking for stuff that's popular here and now, you'll do fine (especially if you're a fan of Hollywood blockbusters). But as soon as you start looking for back catalogue stuff, you're in a mess of dead torrents and broken links. Want to find a mostly-forgotten science fiction movie from the mid-90s (in my case, Strange Days)? Two hours of hunting for a way of downloading it led…

I'm still amazed at the number of "mock busters" that are on torrent sites. The awful, low budget, garbage take offs...Like one called "Atlantic Rim." I think you can guess what it was a take off of. Fired up Popcorn Time recently and the list was packed full of those types of movies.

Re: Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List

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post #28

It sucks that Netflix is pushing their own content as a solution. Don't get me wrong, some of their own content is great, but I don't want to subscribe to 10 different streaming services that all have their own original content, I want to subscribe to one. Netflix--and others, like Amazon Prime--are becoming less and less worthwhile, and piracy is becoming more and more convenient again.

Last weekend my wife and I wanted to watch the movie Goat. It was pretty recently in theaters, so we didn't expect it to be on Netflix. We searched HBO Now, Hulu, Starz, and all of the other video streaming services that we have (and pay money for!). We found two options - rent it on Google Play Movies, or rent it through Amazon Prime. Now, we wanted to Chromecast it, and Amazon (to the best of my knowledge) does not…

I highly recommend using something like fan.tv (I don't know of any competitors, but I assume they exist) for finding where content is available. It looks like it doesn't include Google Play, but shows that Goat is available on Amazon and Vudu, and makes it easy to compare prices.

There're probably other services it doesn't support (which limits its usefulness), but I've been using it for years.

Re: Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List

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Last weekend my wife and I wanted to watch the movie Goat. It was pretty recently in theaters, so we didn't expect it to be on Netflix. We searched HBO Now, Hulu, Starz, and all of the other video streaming services that we have (and pay money for!). We found two options - rent it on Google Play Movies, or rent it through Amazon Prime. Now, we wanted to Chromecast it, and Amazon (to the best of my knowledge) does not…

Yeah I'm not sympathetic. The alternative to finding (and failing to find) a service to watch the show could possibly be - not watching it? The conclusion 'naturally we then had to steal it' isn't entirely justified. Shoplifting is easy and convenient too. Next time you forget your wallet at the corner store. Just sayin.

Your reference to shoplifting is so knee jerk and tired it fails to even apply to this instance

If you read it again you'll see the person paid for the product and then the product they paid for was kept from them

Same thing happened to me, I tried to rent a film on touyube but the stream consistently erred after 2s of low quality viewing.. what really bugged me was I could watch any trending video on the free service without issue on any quality setting but the movie I paid for lacked the same supply attention and was buggy for the entire rental window

Who's going to go after googs for the 6$ I spent trying to watch a movie but an error on touyube stopped me from having the access I paid for?

How is it high ground to withhold sympathy when it is a mega corps stealing from a user?

Re: Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List

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post #77

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> I don't want to subscribe to 10 different streaming services that all have their own original content Funny how so many people screamed for al la care programming and now that it's happening everyone is realizing it's actually worse. I know people hated it, but there is something to be said about traditional TV and how it's consumed. Having a centralized menu/guide of all the content you can view makes it much easi…

> Funny how so many people screamed for al la care programming and now that it's happening everyone is realizing it's actually worse. I wouldn't equate balkanization with a la carte. To stretch the restaurant metaphor, the current situation is akin to taking 5 cab rides between restaurants to cobble together a meal, there's a lot of overhead and waste. Traditional cable television is the restaurant with everything av…

Yeah, but now the streaming services have kombucha (exclusive content)

Re: Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List

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if it's netflix's intend to become another one of the networks (NBC, ABC, etc.. ) with their own shows and made for TV movies, then it's business plan made to fail. People want to see the blockbuster movies..

Rather, it's a smart biz plan. By creating their own content they can provide exclusive access to it. By continuing as they have they risk becoming a commoditized service or even getting locked out of content as other distributors build their own subscription platforms (as they have already built).

I will agree with you however that as a consumer I'd rather have a commoditized subscription service for tv/movies. I suspect however that investors will disagree with us.

Re: Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List

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Yeah I'm not sympathetic. The alternative to finding (and failing to find) a service to watch the show could possibly be - not watching it? The conclusion 'naturally we then had to steal it' isn't entirely justified. Shoplifting is easy and convenient too. Next time you forget your wallet at the corner store. Just sayin.

Your reference to shoplifting is so knee jerk and tired it fails to even apply to this instance If you read it again you'll see the person paid for the product and then the product they paid for was kept from them Same thing happened to me, I tried to rent a film on touyube but the stream consistently erred after 2s of low quality viewing.. what really bugged me was I could watch any trending video on the free servic…

Then they got a refund. Then they pirated. If I read it right?
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