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Re: CHIP Pro

#101
post #76

Maybe I missed it, but how does the CHIP Pro compare to the previous CHIP?

Previous CHIP has twice the RAM (512MB vs 256MB) and eight times more flash (4GB vs 512MB), and it is much cheaper (9$ vs 16$). The "Pro" CPU has same specs (1GHz ARM v7a). The only advantadge is smaller components, and probably less power consumption.

In my opinion, the 8$ CHIP is better than the 16$ "CHIP Pro". Also, for 15$ you can get a Pine64 [1] with much better specs (512MB RAM, 4 ARM64 Cortex A53 cores, ethernet, USBs, HDMI output, etc. -without flash/WiFi/Bluetooth-).

I guess that the 9$ price for the original CHIP was too low, being the reason of shipping delays (needing to compensate the lower board price with overpriced add-ons, with the risk of if not selling enough add-ons, running out of budget (?)).

[1] https://www.pine64.org/ (I'm not related to Pine64, just a happy customer)

Re: CHIP Pro

#102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I got mine a few weeks ago and love it. Pico-8 is wonderful, I haven't done much besides mess with that.

Really? I find Pico-8 is barely playable with the keyboard. Are you using a bluetooth controller?

Would have been a hundred times better if they'd included a gameboy style dpad on the left for arrow keys and 2 proper buttons on the right

Re: CHIP Pro

#103
post #22

I have the chip, esp8266, rpi, teensies, trinkets, arduinos... I studied electronics principles and built various circuits.. yet I have no idea what I can practically use these devices for in my life. They all sit in a box and I have a hard time justifying buying more of them.

Media devices or home automation is two big players I would say. But I feel exactly the same as you. I used my rpi as a server for different things and I have used it as a media player. But now I want to build video surveillance and control it all with my rpi. Though, I live in an apartment so there is not a super large need which makes me prioritize other stuff since I don't really need it. Another thing I want to d…

You can get RF Controllable Wall Light switches that replace the existing switch. The ones in the UK commonly use 433mhz and a configurable static code to turn them on/off. The benefit of them are that you can still control them from the switch itself so you won't be looking around for the bloody remote, The in socket types have to have the wall switch on all the time so if someone turns the light off from the switch then your automation goes along with it. And the 433Mhz signal is normally easily decoded.

If you don't have a SDR (a cheap RTLSDR will do) or an oscilloscope you can wire the remote that will come with them to your soundcard on your computer (And you can normally use a cheap USB soundcard if your paranoid about frying the sound card in your pride and joy, I never had an issue when I used to do it) and use an audio suite such as audacity to record the signal and then manually decode the signal.

Once you have the signal you basically then do a replay attack to control the switch using your pi an a cheap 433mhz transmitter.

The downsides to these are that they have no security if someone knows the codes to turn on/off your lights they can but they are limited by the range of their transmitter. You also don't get feedback from these style of switches so the software doesn't know if the switches are actually on or off. I would send my codes a number of times just incase they switches didn't pick up on them the first time.

You can get WiFi switches too but they are more expensive, add complexity to the project (if they are not well documented) and personally I would put them on their own wifi without access to the internet. (But you could write your own bridge so you can control them over the net.)

Openhab[1] is a nice Home automation suite that runs on the Pi and has a lot of modules to control lots of different things already written for it. One of the things it can do out of the box is calculate sunrise/set where you are. So I would use it to turn on my outdoor lights 15 mins after dusk and switch off at a set time.

Just a word of advise to help you making the same mistake I did with it at one point, make sure you write the log's to ram otherwise you can burn though SD Cards pretty quickly (well it took 6 months for one of mine to die)

[1] http://www.openhab.org/

EDIT: You could also use Philip Hue's (or their compatibles or anything using ZLL) and hook up a zigbee to your pi, create your own "hub" and control the lights directly as the ZLL Master key has been leaked. But these also suffer from the "in socket" issue where if someone turns off the switch on the wall then you lose control of the bulb.

Re: CHIP Pro

#104
post #75
post #53

Considering the fact that they missed delivery date of the previous one by at least 150% (I am still waiting) announcing new one with "Available Dec 2016" sounds like tasteless joke.

My CHIP still not delivered. They re-scheduled 3 times the delivery. The last was 3 Oct. Today I received the "happy" news this will be shipped at the beginning of Nov. The initial shipment was June when I ordered in March.

Ditto. I had planned on porting FreeBSD to it, but with all of the delays and more interesting boards coming out since it was announced, I've lost all interest at this point.

Re: CHIP Pro

#105
post #53

Considering the fact that they missed delivery date of the previous one by at least 150% (I am still waiting) announcing new one with "Available Dec 2016" sounds like tasteless joke.

I've got mine. the pocketchip ts pretty fun. installed python and idle and messed around. quake 3 would not run. but I played the shit out of nethack like I never have before. I haven't figured out what exactly I want to do with it but it's been fun so far having a little midget debian box with a tiny screen. It forces you to use the console more which is healthy. like eating your vegetables. I've already borked the…

They shipped mine as well (original KickStarter backer) fairly soon thereafter the announcements were made.

It's odd there's such a disparity in shipping; I feel as though I've had mine forever.

Re: CHIP Pro

#106
post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My CHIP still not delivered. They re-scheduled 3 times the delivery. The last was 3 Oct. Today I received the "happy" news this will be shipped at the beginning of Nov. The initial shipment was June when I ordered in March.

Ditto. I had planned on porting FreeBSD to it, but with all of the delays and more interesting boards coming out since it was announced, I've lost all interest at this point.

Share the more interesting boards please because I am salivating over the pricepoint and features of this one.

Re: CHIP Pro

#107
post #22

I have the chip, esp8266, rpi, teensies, trinkets, arduinos... I studied electronics principles and built various circuits.. yet I have no idea what I can practically use these devices for in my life. They all sit in a box and I have a hard time justifying buying more of them.

Make a portable musical instrument and use it all to write tracks.

Re: CHIP Pro

#108
post #22

I have the chip, esp8266, rpi, teensies, trinkets, arduinos... I studied electronics principles and built various circuits.. yet I have no idea what I can practically use these devices for in my life. They all sit in a box and I have a hard time justifying buying more of them.

I recently bought a Wifi Modem for my Commodore 64 that is based off the Arduinos board. OK, that sounds embarrassing when I say it, but I do value it nevertheless. It allows me to connect to some BBSes (!) where like-minded crazy people like me can hang. I think it all has to do with the creativity and/or niche (in my case, a passionate hobby) designers like you can fill.

I have a similar rig for my Oric-1/Atmos collection, wherein the processor being used to emulate a disk sub-system for the Oric is itself a ridiculously faster computer than the Oric hardware its supporting .. (Cumulus)

Nice idea to make a Wifi Modem, I've got an ESP8266 I may just wire up to an Oric one of these days, when I open that drawer full of junk and find it..

Always cool to keep the old machines going, no matter what ..

Re: CHIP Pro

#109
post #75
post #53

Considering the fact that they missed delivery date of the previous one by at least 150% (I am still waiting) announcing new one with "Available Dec 2016" sounds like tasteless joke.

My CHIP still not delivered. They re-scheduled 3 times the delivery. The last was 3 Oct. Today I received the "happy" news this will be shipped at the beginning of Nov. The initial shipment was June when I ordered in March.

Hang in there, this is par for the course with a lot of these boot-up hardware projects, the guys behind CHIP are not yet mass-market vendors of these things, it is always bumpy for first adopters of this brave new world of quaint hardware ..

That said, I have my PocketCHIP. It is a great little Linux box, the perfect thing to .. indeed .. stick a pencil in, ssh into, and use .. well, like .. any other Linux workstation .. like, omfg, could this actually BE a decent Linux desktop? Answer, immfo, is this: YES! Worth the wait!

Re: CHIP Pro

#110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've got mine. the pocketchip ts pretty fun. installed python and idle and messed around. quake 3 would not run. but I played the shit out of nethack like I never have before. I haven't figured out what exactly I want to do with it but it's been fun so far having a little midget debian box with a tiny screen. It forces you to use the console more which is healthy. like eating your vegetables. I've already borked the…

They shipped mine as well (original KickStarter backer) fairly soon thereafter the announcements were made. It's odd there's such a disparity in shipping; I feel as though I've had mine forever.

Same here, I got my CHIP in January from the Kickstarter. However, my VGA adapter that was supposed to arrive in March didn't get here until June, long after I'd lost interest in the platform. Honestly, the RPi3 is a better deal overall, if you consider the value of the respective communities and much broader range of operating system support on the Pi.

I will say this: I wish there was something like the Pocket CHIP for the Pi, without having to build your own from the board up.

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