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Re: CHIP Pro

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What's with the "no NDA required"? Who requires NDAs for their datasheets?

Every chip vendor I've dealt with, from Amlogic to Allwinner to Freescale, requires a signed NDA for full documentation. Public documentation is usually heavily redacted.

The GR8 seems to be a rebadged Allwinner chip, and the no-NDA datasheet seems to be next to useless, to be honest.

Re: CHIP Pro

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What's with the "no NDA required"? Who requires NDAs for their datasheets?

Many companies. Almost too many to list. This is probably a dig at Broadcom who makes the chip in the Raspberry Pi and usually requires NDAs for their chips. Hell, Broadcom won't even let you buy many of their chips without their permission!

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What's with the "no NDA required"? Who requires NDAs for their datasheets?

A lot of vendors do for recent processors. You can easily get a z80 datasheet, but not necessarily complete info for a recent ARM SoC.

Re: CHIP Pro

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post #3

What's with the "no NDA required"? Who requires NDAs for their datasheets?

Every chip vendor I've dealt with, from Amlogic to Allwinner to Freescale, requires a signed NDA for full documentation. Public documentation is usually heavily redacted. The GR8 seems to be a rebadged Allwinner chip, and the no-NDA datasheet seems to be next to useless, to be honest.

> "The GR8 seems to be a rebadged Allwinner chip"

It could be, but reading up on the features of the C.H.I.P. Pro it supports mainline Linux. I assumed this meant without blobs. Is there mainline support for any Allwinner chips?

Re: CHIP Pro

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I'm waiting for a PocketCHIP (mainly to mess with pico8) that I preordered at the start of this month, and it has estimated shipping of November.

I wonder if the Chip Pro shipping in December will have any impact on my order.

Re: CHIP Pro

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post #3

What's with the "no NDA required"? Who requires NDAs for their datasheets?

Every chip vendor I've dealt with, from Amlogic to Allwinner to Freescale, requires a signed NDA for full documentation. Public documentation is usually heavily redacted. The GR8 seems to be a rebadged Allwinner chip, and the no-NDA datasheet seems to be next to useless, to be honest.

One of the good things with the Chinese companies is that the datasheets will usually make it out into the public if the chips get popular enough. A byproduct of the "Gongkai" ecosystem:

https://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=4297

Re: CHIP Pro

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post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every chip vendor I've dealt with, from Amlogic to Allwinner to Freescale, requires a signed NDA for full documentation. Public documentation is usually heavily redacted. The GR8 seems to be a rebadged Allwinner chip, and the no-NDA datasheet seems to be next to useless, to be honest.

> "The GR8 seems to be a rebadged Allwinner chip" It could be, but reading up on the features of the C.H.I.P. Pro it supports mainline Linux. I assumed this meant without blobs. Is there mainline support for any Allwinner chips?

Many A20 features are in mainline kernels now, although sunxi-3.4 is still recommended for full hardware support.

http://linux-sunxi.org/Linux_mainlining_effort#Status_Matrix

EDIT: The GR8 is specifically called out on this page as having mainline support from kernel 4.9.

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