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Re: Disappearing messages for Signal

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post #5

With all due respect, Open Whisper Systems might ought first consider fixing Signal's multiplicate message problem, especially silent (to the sender) group chat spamming.

>multiplicate

I'd never heard this word so I looked it up. Google didn't have a definition but merriam-webster was the first result. They showed me an extra concise definition and then this message...

>Wait, there’s more! This word doesn't usually appear in our free dictionary, but we’ve shared just a bit of the information that appears in our premium Unabridged Dictionary. There’s more definition detail there. Start your FREE Trial Now!

Umm.. Fuck you Merriam-Webster?

Re: Disappearing messages for Signal

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post #12
post #5

With all due respect, Open Whisper Systems might ought first consider fixing Signal's multiplicate message problem, especially silent (to the sender) group chat spamming.

>multiplicate I'd never heard this word so I looked it up. Google didn't have a definition but merriam-webster was the first result. They showed me an extra concise definition and then this message... >Wait, there’s more! This word doesn't usually appear in our free dictionary, but we’ve shared just a bit of the information that appears in our premium Unabridged Dictionary. There’s more definition detail there. Start…

There's something weird about that marketing angle coming from a dictionary; it seems somehow at odds with the notion of completeness that we associate with reference materials. Like "there are secret words that only paying customers get to know about", or something?

Re: Disappearing messages for Signal

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post #6

Great. One of the most requested features is finally here. I think all that's left now is video calling (on the desktop, too).

I would like to be able to re-register a new number without having to de-activate the account thereby not losing all of my chats.

Re: Disappearing messages for Signal

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post #13
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>multiplicate I'd never heard this word so I looked it up. Google didn't have a definition but merriam-webster was the first result. They showed me an extra concise definition and then this message... >Wait, there’s more! This word doesn't usually appear in our free dictionary, but we’ve shared just a bit of the information that appears in our premium Unabridged Dictionary. There’s more definition detail there. Start…

There's something weird about that marketing angle coming from a dictionary; it seems somehow at odds with the notion of completeness that we associate with reference materials. Like "there are secret words that only paying customers get to know about", or something?

Less- and more-comprehensive versions of dictionaries is a long-standing thing. And you've usually had to pay for all of them—I think it's weirder that you'd expect to have a fully-complete version of something that takes a lot of expert knowledge and time to put together for free.

Re: Disappearing messages for Signal

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post #5

With all due respect, Open Whisper Systems might ought first consider fixing Signal's multiplicate message problem, especially silent (to the sender) group chat spamming.

As a Signal user, I've experienced this issue as well. I work around it by deleting the message, then re-sending it, but that's clunky.

I don't think that's the problem that jpt4 is talking about. I believe he is talking about how sometimes a group message will be received 20 times or more, and yet the sender will still see "message not sent" for some recipients.

Re: Disappearing messages for Signal

#17
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's something weird about that marketing angle coming from a dictionary; it seems somehow at odds with the notion of completeness that we associate with reference materials. Like "there are secret words that only paying customers get to know about", or something?

Less- and more-comprehensive versions of dictionaries is a long-standing thing. And you've usually had to pay for all of them—I think it's weirder that you'd expect to have a fully-complete version of something that takes a lot of expert knowledge and time to put together for free.

It's interesting to think about it this way. I do have dictionaries of different sizes that I've paid for, yet somehow the differences between them didn't strike me the same way this marketing campaign does.

Re: Disappearing messages for Signal

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post #12
post #5

With all due respect, Open Whisper Systems might ought first consider fixing Signal's multiplicate message problem, especially silent (to the sender) group chat spamming.

>multiplicate I'd never heard this word so I looked it up. Google didn't have a definition but merriam-webster was the first result. They showed me an extra concise definition and then this message... >Wait, there’s more! This word doesn't usually appear in our free dictionary, but we’ve shared just a bit of the information that appears in our premium Unabridged Dictionary. There’s more definition detail there. Start…

More expensive unabridged dictionaries and less exepensive abridged veraions have been the norm for nearly as long as commercially published dictionaries have been a thing. That one of the cheaper abridged ones is now free on the web doesn't really change that.

Re: Disappearing messages for Signal

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post #18

I don't understand why it still doesn't support landscape mode on iPhone.

It's on the roadmap https://github.com/WhisperSystems/Signal-iOS/issues/937 The iOS version didn't have a dev for a while after Frederic Jacobs went to Apple, but Michael Kirk recently took over so things are happening again.
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