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Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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Post by exclusiv »

incongruity wrote: post #225
Nursie wrote: post #121

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Love the last line of that article! The irony!

Samsung – our business is exploding! This is a minor brand disaster but as others have said, consumers have short memories. Look at Toyota's unintended acceleration issues as a good example. Has it really impacted them many months on?

They may have short memories but many consumers will switch and try something different now because they don't want to wait for whatever's next.

Since the flagships are all pretty close these days, it will be more challenging to get them back due to the upgrade cycle.

40% of Android users upgrade as soon as provider allows (usually every 2 years) while 58% wait until their current phone dies or becomes obsolete. [1]

[1] http://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2015/07/09/how-oft...

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Post by adventured »

PaulRobinson wrote: post #14

[drip, drip, drip, drip, drip…] They have spent a huge amount of money on marketing this phone. I wrote a week or so back it could be the end of Samsung and people told me I was an idiot - they make so many other things, their spread is so broad, they can just produce the next phone and move on. This has done untold damage to their brand in the eyes of the average consumer and has wasted so much money, I think they a…

> it could be the end of Samsung

There is no scenario under which the failure of one product, particularly the Note (far less popular than the Galaxy), ends the massive conglomerate known as Samsung. It's ~13% of South Korea's GDP and is very diverse. Samsung is so large and diverse it could end their entire lineup of smart phones and would still continue on as a successful technology company.

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Post by EpicEng »

vamur wrote: post #201
PaulRobinson wrote: post #14

[drip, drip, drip, drip, drip…] They have spent a huge amount of money on marketing this phone. I wrote a week or so back it could be the end of Samsung and people told me I was an idiot - they make so many other things, their spread is so broad, they can just produce the next phone and move on. This has done untold damage to their brand in the eyes of the average consumer and has wasted so much money, I think they a…

They are still selling S7/Edge by the truckloads - not to mention old versions of the S phones and Notes. And some consumers are even buying their incomprehensible A/C/J/E phones. And they are introducing S8 in March, and given lack of viable competition on high-end Android it will sell like hotcakes. The damage will be to their stock and missed profits from Note 7 sales, as well as some loss to lawsuits. Maybe it wi…

>Maybe it will teach them to not rush phones or listen to engineering

Why do you assume that it wasn't an engineering screw up to begin with? They had two chances and didn't get it right. Not all technical problems are the fault of MBA's.

And I get down voted... Stay happy in your silos HN

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Post by mschuster91 »

jhatax wrote: post #250
PaulRobinson wrote: post #14

[drip, drip, drip, drip, drip…] They have spent a huge amount of money on marketing this phone. I wrote a week or so back it could be the end of Samsung and people told me I was an idiot - they make so many other things, their spread is so broad, they can just produce the next phone and move on. This has done untold damage to their brand in the eyes of the average consumer and has wasted so much money, I think they a…

If this were the case, VW would surely have abandoned ship and shuttered their factories. They haven't. Similar situation with BP - they are not in the doldrums. People have short-term memories and will vote with their wallets if they see a new product that seems "worth the cost" of ownership.

> If this were the case, VW would surely have abandoned ship and shuttered their factories. They haven't.

VW has a huge customer base in enterprise and government. As long as trucks are not affected by faked emission tests, both won't dump Volkswagen. And even if: many large corporations and government institutions run their own car/truck repair shops, sometimes even their own parts storage (the most extreme is certainly UPS) in order to save money - and you can't just switch over all that to a new manufacturer.

> Similar situation with BP - they are not in the doldrums.

For gas directly sold by BP to customers: who cares? Consumers only look at the pump price, they're not as politicized as e.g. during Brent Spar 1995. The other branches / customers of bp are all corporate, where there is no incentive except prices to switch suppliers.

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Post by merb »

dawnerd wrote: post #279
eric_h wrote: post #276

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I'm quite happy with my Samsung TV - picture quality is great. The remote is a terrible piece of shit, and I disabled the "Smart" TV features the moment that thing showed be a goddamn ad, but as a front end for my Apple TV/Playstation 4 it's quite good.

Except you can't fully disable ads unless they've patched it in the last 6 or so months. I had a very long back and forth with them about it and they kept denying it until finally admitting that it was impossible to disable. Worse, they were using the notification bar to advertise gamefly. Not cool. Keep in mind the TV I had was their flagship first gen 4k tv. There's no excuse for putting ads on a nearly 5k dollar t…

> There's no excuse for putting ads on a nearly 5k dollar tv.

there is no excuse for putting ads on any tv without explicitly state it.

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Post by [deleted] »

Nursie wrote: post #241
M_Grey wrote: post #236

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There was probably a way to get your point across without calling someone an idiot, and if not, you didn't have a point in the first place.

Read the context - I was merely echoing what was written there. I wouldn't have initiated such name-calling, but I do think the OP's reaction is over the top and silly, given the context.

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Post by takeda »

samfisher83 wrote: post #220
sveme wrote: post #110

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Yes, Samsung is going to suffer, that's certain. But failing, as in going bankrupt? No. They are simply too important for South Korea to let them go bankrupt. But you backpedalled on that point already as well, and no one, even the biggest fanboy, would argue that they are not going to have large problems. Like every large company somewhere on its track.

They are too big to fail. Worst case the government would step in and bail them out. If they failed the all their suppliers would be hurt it would be shockwave through the Korean economy. Same reason why US bailed out AIG, GM, etc.

It's even bigger than that. Samsung generates 17% of South Korea's GDP.

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Post by lmm »

tomjen3 wrote: post #274
lmm wrote: post #41

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Many of us agree. Unfortunately per dang policy such links are allowed and we're not even supposed to discuss it in the comments here. I don't know what to suggest other than looking for alternatives to HN. If you would like an invite to lobste.rs I'm happy to send you one.

Instead of us filling the thread with invite requests, could you post your email?

I'd rather not, sorry.

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Post by criddell »

macintux wrote: post #278
criddell wrote: post #175

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I think it's because of the brand damage. When you sell millions of phones, some tiny number will always have problems. Every single time that happens, the media will jump on it for yet-another-Samsung-Note-problem story. At this point, they are probably mostly worried that the damage will spread to other Samsung properties. Some news stories are already trying to connect appliance failures.

Brand damage? 13-year-old kids are getting burned by these phones. Airplanes have been evacuated due to these phones. This is not a media overreaction.

Even if Samsung were to get their failure rates in line with Apple, Motorola, LG, and other manufacturers, a Samsung failure will still generate more coverage than any other brand. That's why there's no point in trying to salvage the Note 7.

BTW, this isn't the first plane to be evacuated due to a phone fire. Remember this story: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-272965...

There are others if you Google it.

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Post by pluma »

Zelmor wrote: post #105
walterbell wrote: post #92

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Why do batteries need to be unique for each model? Some laptop lines (e.g. Lenovo) share removable batteries among models with similar power needs. Same used to be true of phones which had removable batteries from the same phone vendor.

Because everybody wants to be special. Size, weight, optimalization, screen edge corner angle, etc. It is a senseless, unsustainable development practice that creates much waste each year. Nobody seems to look at the future, everybody just wants to win in the here and now. 4 degrees later, we are all gone. The batteries remain, for a while. In 2135 CE, the last Samsung battery too will catch fire, starting an unstopp…

> Fuck the pandas

To be fair, the lack of fucking pandas do is a major hurdle in their conservation.

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