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Re: Dash developer's response to Apple's response

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Post by metafunctor »

moduspwnens14 wrote: post #126
metafunctor wrote: post #111

Apple should change their process so that they contact all linked accounts if it's possible that they would be closed. End of. Kind of. Seems like Apple is working off the assumption that linked accounts are acutely aware of what each other are doing, and thus are all equally responsible for each others actions. Clearly this assumption is not valid. Having listened to the entire call, I think both parties conducted t…

Where did you hear the entire call? I only heard the part on his blog that clearly didn't start at the beginning. Apple didn't notify both accounts because they're under no obligation to notify someone that they're committing fraud and ask them politely to stop. Why would you take the word of a developer dumb enough to post this audio clip and publicly shame Apple in blog posts as someone honest and working in good f…

Ah, I should've said "entire recording". What's posted on the blog is all I've heard.

Apple is under no obligation to do anything, they can do as they please. But just because an entity is “under no obligation” to do something, or something is “completely legal”, doesn't make it right.

In this case, I'm siding with the developer for a few reasons.

First of all, his app is good, the reviews are genuine, and even Apple thinks so.

Second, I can relate to him, as I've given away test hardware to others, and I was not aware that I should vouch for whatever they do with the hardware.

Finally, Apple is the big player here with all the muscle. When in doubt, I try to side with the party that didn't come up with the rules.

Re: Dash developer's response to Apple's response

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Post by davemel37 »

moduspwnens14 wrote: post #124
pfg wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They weren't asking the dev to admit to fraud. They were asking him to admit to opening multiple developer accounts and losing control of one. Which both sides acknowledge he did. I'm not sure I understand why the developer thinks this would be an admission of wrongdoing on his part Just to be clear, the developer would've been happy to do exactly that: > On Saturday they told me that they are fine with me writing…

It's also very possible that the developer is not telling the whole story. It's not like Apple does this kind of thing every day and their statement is fairly clear. They also likely have additional information, like the IP addresses and timestamps in use when the reports were made. Keep in mind that Apple doesn't make money (directly) from taking the guy's app down, and even the guy's story doesn't really make sense…

Two important points.

>It's not like Apple does this kind of thing every day

1. Just because you don't hear about it doesn't mean it doesn't happen all the time to less known developers with no public voice.

2. What's his incentive not to take the out Apple offered him? If he was guilty & had no problem lying, why the heck wouldn't he grab the opportunity to be reinstated?

The only rational incentive to hold his ground is if he actually believes he is in the right. Which indicates that his story is likely true.

I agree that he could just as easily be lying, but the series of events and decisions fit much better with a guy who feels hurt and in the right, versus a guy who has no problem lying and being dishonest publicly.

Edit: spelling correction

Re: Dash developer's response to Apple's response

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Post by eridius »

pier25 wrote: post #90
eridius wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Kapeli did not commit fraud. But that does not mean Apple was incorrect in linking the two accounts. In fact, 20 seconds into the call, the Apple rep says > We don't believe that there was a mistake here, right. We don't think that we made a mistake. So no, Apple is very explicitly saying they were not in error.

I agree. But then why force him to write a PR blog post in favor of Apple? That's what's really wrong here.

Because he wrote the blog post that started this whole thing and accused Apple of doing the wrong thing. Apple just wanted him to essentially post a correction.
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