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Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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Post by vamur »

PaulRobinson wrote: post #14

[drip, drip, drip, drip, drip…] They have spent a huge amount of money on marketing this phone. I wrote a week or so back it could be the end of Samsung and people told me I was an idiot - they make so many other things, their spread is so broad, they can just produce the next phone and move on. This has done untold damage to their brand in the eyes of the average consumer and has wasted so much money, I think they a…

They are still selling S7/Edge by the truckloads - not to mention old versions of the S phones and Notes. And some consumers are even buying their incomprehensible A/C/J/E phones. And they are introducing S8 in March, and given lack of viable competition on high-end Android it will sell like hotcakes.

The damage will be to their stock and missed profits from Note 7 sales, as well as some loss to lawsuits. Maybe it will teach them to not rush phones or listen to engineering. Who knows, maybe they'll even add removable batteries or fix the AMOLED flicker.

Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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Post by Nursie »

toxican wrote: post #189
MicroBerto wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> many consumers won't buy Samsung phones again as a minimum when they're first released, maybe never as a worst case scenario. I think this is an overreaction. I have a Samsung, and will buy another if it's the best value for what I need next time I'm phone shopping. Consumers have short memories and there aren't that many legitimate alternatives to Apple.

Personally I'm hoping the next iteration of the Note sees a nice price drop to convince consumers to buy back in. I'd jump in at that point.

If it boots them out of the prestige-pricing range into the "it's got every feature of the rest for a hundred bucks less, you'd be crazy not to" range that Google used to inhabit with Nexus, that could be a good thing...

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Post by arjie »

efvxcgci wrote: post #194
metafunctor wrote: post #88

The subject says it all, but am I the only one who isn't a subscriber of the Wall Street Journal? Is there no free source on the Internet for this same piece of news? I'm not saying everything should be free. I build paid-for services on the web myself. But how is “To Read the Full Story, Subscribe or Sign In” useful on the Hacker News?

Plus, if you give in and subscribe to the WSJ they go out of their way to make it difficult to unsubscribe, requiring users to call in by phone and be subjected to a sales pitch just to cancel the recurring charges. It's a very scummy retention tactic.

It's so common, it's ridiculous. The NYT has the same policy, and you have to call in on certain days of the week at certain times. They even published an opinion piece decrying the practice while participating in it.

The call centre employees will even discount your subscription to try to keep you. Not at all cool.

Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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Post by arjie »

richardboegli wrote: post #186
WhitneyLand wrote: post #116

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Because sometimes they break stories and have exclusive content and in depth info that others won't have immediately if ever. For example they were ahead of everyone with the Theranos news. I think the idea of putting links on HN is its better to know about it asap, rather than possibly using a slower or less comprehensive source.

Bloomberg actually had it almost two hours earlier than WSJ. I've just posted it to HN just now. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12684081

Yeah, but Bloomberg publishes a lot of rubbish. Rumours and lots of secondary news, so you never know if it is true.

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Post by shawn-butler »

josh2600 wrote: post #138
PaulRobinson wrote: post #79

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Well, let's go through their other businesses. Samsung SDI is going to struggle in a World with cheap coal prices and political inclinations (cf. Trump campaign) to not care about environmental impacts. Samsung Heavy Industries is already struggling because of market demands for new container ships dropping off sharply in recent years - there has been a glut of supply for some years. Their Engineering and Constructio…

Samsung is too much of South Korea's GDP to go bankrupt. For Samsung to fail, the Korean economy would have to also fail, which is possible but unlikely. I think that if you compare Samsung's Note 7 to Nokia's Burning Platform, the prospects for Samsung are significantly better (Nokia not only destroyed the value of 100% of their inventory but also all of their future inventory until the OS changeover happened; Samsu…

Samsung hovers around what 20% of South Korean GDP?

Nokia was around 4-5% of Finland and some say its loss was the best thing to happen of the country's tech sector. I haven't seen any real analysis however.

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Post by elorant »

jhwhite wrote: post #162
elorant wrote: post #119

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Google the title of the article. Follow the link from Google and voila. A free version of the article.

This is what I came to say. Not sure why that works, but it does!

Because due to a black hat trick called cloaking [1], Google penalizes pages that show different content to users and crawlers. So web sites serve a free version of their content to Google.

[1] https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/66355?hl=en

Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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Post by jonlucc »

MicroBerto wrote: post #48
PaulRobinson wrote: post #14

[drip, drip, drip, drip, drip…] They have spent a huge amount of money on marketing this phone. I wrote a week or so back it could be the end of Samsung and people told me I was an idiot - they make so many other things, their spread is so broad, they can just produce the next phone and move on. This has done untold damage to their brand in the eyes of the average consumer and has wasted so much money, I think they a…

> many consumers won't buy Samsung phones again as a minimum when they're first released, maybe never as a worst case scenario. I think this is an overreaction. I have a Samsung, and will buy another if it's the best value for what I need next time I'm phone shopping. Consumers have short memories and there aren't that many legitimate alternatives to Apple.

I think you overestimate the ability of consumers to discriminate between phones. Samsung intentionally named their phones "Samsung Galaxy S7" and "Samsung Note 7". Lots of people don't know that only one of the two is exploding (anecdotally, my wife and her parents).

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Post by mcculley »

ManlyBread wrote: post #81
mcculley wrote: post #50

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To make the battery replaceable while still providing the same amount of energy would require a thicker case around the battery, thicker contacts, and a discrete accessible compartment in the phone. All of this adds up to a much bigger phone. The days of replaceable batteries are over.

The chase for the thinnest device possible is plain stupid, the current devices with a replaceable battery are already thin enough to fit in a pocket, why go even further if it's such an inconvenience? For me, not having a replaceable battery is a very good reason to avoid buying such a device.

I'm not claiming anybody wants a thinner phone. I do think few will choose a bigger phone or one with less battery life.
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