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Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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Post by cdubzzz »

hellofunk wrote: post #30
PaulRobinson wrote: post #14

[drip, drip, drip, drip, drip…] They have spent a huge amount of money on marketing this phone. I wrote a week or so back it could be the end of Samsung and people told me I was an idiot - they make so many other things, their spread is so broad, they can just produce the next phone and move on. This has done untold damage to their brand in the eyes of the average consumer and has wasted so much money, I think they a…

> First, all those sales are now refunded. I've heard actually that people are having an enormous difficulty getting refunds for the phones they already purchased, with Samsung responding to their requests with verbose but meaningless legalese.

This is actually the reason I already avoid Samsung. They seem to have abysmal customer service in the US. Particularly compared to Apple for mobile devices.

Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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Post by kbart »

lmm wrote: post #135
kbart wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, I find it strange too. Why can't they simply replace the battery with some other model? Even if it's internal, replacing it would cost way less than writing off the entire line.

They could probably drop in a replacement with what, half the capacity? But that impacts the whole design of the 'phone. There's a huge difference between a phone that lasts one day and a phone that lasts half a day. So they'd be looking to lower the screen brightness, maybe find a less power-hungry processor and/or LTE chip,.... by the time you've finished accomodating that kind of change it's a new model anyway.

3500 mAh doesn't strike as something astonishing. There are Chinese phones with >5000 mAh battery for sale (though I would not dare to vouch for their safety), even Galaxy S7 have 3000 mAh battery.

Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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Post by ak4g »

metafunctor wrote: post #102
jamestanderson wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If Google refers you to the article from its search results, you can see the whole thing. Try searching for the headline!

OK. So it's the old "Google for the URL or title" and you may get the content thing. Am I the only one who thinks this sucks? If so, I will bite my lip and shut up. I believe in the open Internet. I don't even run an ad blocker for sites that aren't complete assholes with their ads. But this is just stupid.

What would you have them do instead?

I don't love it, but I don't have a problem with it, mostly because I have no idea what other route they could take.

Ad-supported is something Buzzfeed can make viable, but it means tailoring both the substance and the form of their content to optimize for that. Doesn't work for WaPo.

Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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Post by gman83 »

metafunctor wrote: post #102
jamestanderson wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If Google refers you to the article from its search results, you can see the whole thing. Try searching for the headline!

OK. So it's the old "Google for the URL or title" and you may get the content thing. Am I the only one who thinks this sucks? If so, I will bite my lip and shut up. I believe in the open Internet. I don't even run an ad blocker for sites that aren't complete assholes with their ads. But this is just stupid.

It's the newspaper themselves who bypass their own firewall when you come from google. They can easily disable it if they want to.

Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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Post by apaprocki »

WhitneyLand wrote: post #116
metafunctor wrote: post #88

The subject says it all, but am I the only one who isn't a subscriber of the Wall Street Journal? Is there no free source on the Internet for this same piece of news? I'm not saying everything should be free. I build paid-for services on the web myself. But how is “To Read the Full Story, Subscribe or Sign In” useful on the Hacker News?

Because sometimes they break stories and have exclusive content and in depth info that others won't have immediately if ever. For example they were ahead of everyone with the Theranos news. I think the idea of putting links on HN is its better to know about it asap, rather than possibly using a slower or less comprehensive source.

Bloomberg story: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-10-11/samsung-e...

Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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Post by lmm »

kbart wrote: post #142
lmm wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They could probably drop in a replacement with what, half the capacity? But that impacts the whole design of the 'phone. There's a huge difference between a phone that lasts one day and a phone that lasts half a day. So they'd be looking to lower the screen brightness, maybe find a less power-hungry processor and/or LTE chip,.... by the time you've finished accomodating that kind of change it's a new model anyway.

3500 mAh doesn't strike as something astonishing. There are Chinese phones with >5000 mAh battery for sale (though I would not dare to vouch for their safety), even Galaxy S7 have 3000 mAh battery.

Small enough to fit in the space they had in the Note 7?

Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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Post by Nullabillity »

mcculley wrote: post #50
RGamma wrote: post #15

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Maybe next time they'll offer replaceable batteries, which would have made this situation much less painful and is generally a plus for consumers anyway...

To make the battery replaceable while still providing the same amount of energy would require a thicker case around the battery, thicker contacts, and a discrete accessible compartment in the phone. All of this adds up to a much bigger phone. The days of replaceable batteries are over.

> To make the battery replaceable while still providing the same amount of energy would require a thicker case around the battery, thicker contacts, and a discrete accessible compartment in the phone.

Yes. Please.

Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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Post by dexterdog »

oneeyedpigeon wrote: post #31
QuantumRoar wrote: post #19

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How does that even work?

It's a by-product of the broken paywall model. Sites want to protect their content, but they still want traffic to their site. Checking that the referrer is a search engine is a weird middle-way workaround.

Just use a referer switcher like Referer Control on Chrome.

Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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Post by dexterdog »

jamestanderson wrote: post #97
metafunctor wrote: post #88

The subject says it all, but am I the only one who isn't a subscriber of the Wall Street Journal? Is there no free source on the Internet for this same piece of news? I'm not saying everything should be free. I build paid-for services on the web myself. But how is “To Read the Full Story, Subscribe or Sign In” useful on the Hacker News?

If Google refers you to the article from its search results, you can see the whole thing. Try searching for the headline!

Or just use a referer switcher like Referer Control on Chrome for all clicks in the wsj.com domain.
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