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Re: Workplace by Facebook opens to sell enterprise social networking to the masses

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Post by boggydepot »

googlereject wrote: post #120
pmlnr wrote: post #104

https://workplace.fb.com/trust Sure. Also: Zuck: Yeah so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard Zuck: Just ask Zuck: I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS [Redacted Friend's Name]: What? How'd you manage that one? Zuck: People just submitted it. Zuck: I don't know why. Zuck: They "trust me" Zuck: Dumb fucks Just keep remembering that as well, please.

The simple solution to anyone concerned about this is to just stop using Facebook. I've done so and it turned out to be a great decision. Contrary to the belief that you'll be "left out," people can and do get in touch with you for the important things. SMS, email, phone, snapchat, etc all work really well today, and you can get your social news fix from reddit, HN, and elsewhere if you need it. I've gotten measurabl…

yep, friends what we need - epicurus

Re: Workplace by Facebook opens to sell enterprise social networking to the masses

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Post by DominikR »

danenania wrote: post #185
DominikR wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apparently you have difficulty reasoning objectively about this issue. Let's agree to disagree and move on with life. For you it's sexual assault because you imagine him attacking women without any warning while I on the other hand have no reason to believe that he isn't escalating sexually in a normal way, leaving room for women to say no or move a step back to signal a no. Edit: When I think about it then I must be…

Sorry, no. There is no universe in which "grab 'em by the pussy" is part of a normal escalation. We're talking (very plainly) about sexual assault. It's pretty sick to see people trying to defend this.

Of course it is at some point or didn't you ever touch a women? The problem is that you people all take Trumps words literally, but he isn't a politician and therefore he doesn't talk like one.

Re: Workplace by Facebook opens to sell enterprise social networking to the masses

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Post by DominikR »

thesimpsons1022 wrote: post #184
DominikR wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apparently you have difficulty reasoning objectively about this issue. Let's agree to disagree and move on with life. For you it's sexual assault because you imagine him attacking women without any warning while I on the other hand have no reason to believe that he isn't escalating sexually in a normal way, leaving room for women to say no or move a step back to signal a no. Edit: When I think about it then I must be…

think what you want. next we'll have video proof of him doing it that is conclusive and you'll make up some other defense. truly irredeemable. edit: and yes you probably are then. glad you admitted it. please turn yourself in.

Maybe it works for you to ask first (I doubt you are serious about this) but I would not advise any man to do this.

Re: Workplace by Facebook opens to sell enterprise social networking to the masses

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Post by apsec112 »

pmlnr wrote: post #104

https://workplace.fb.com/trust Sure. Also: Zuck: Yeah so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard Zuck: Just ask Zuck: I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS [Redacted Friend's Name]: What? How'd you manage that one? Zuck: People just submitted it. Zuck: I don't know why. Zuck: They "trust me" Zuck: Dumb fucks Just keep remembering that as well, please.

"If you give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest of men, I will find something in them which will hang him." - Cardinal Richelieu

Re: Workplace by Facebook opens to sell enterprise social networking to the masses

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Post by grecy »

pmlnr wrote: post #104

https://workplace.fb.com/trust Sure. Also: Zuck: Yeah so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard Zuck: Just ask Zuck: I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS [Redacted Friend's Name]: What? How'd you manage that one? Zuck: People just submitted it. Zuck: I don't know why. Zuck: They "trust me" Zuck: Dumb fucks Just keep remembering that as well, please.

I think it's unfair to judge someone on what they said when they were 19 and just starting in the world. We were all kids once.

I'm quite certain that everyone in the world has said silly things at certain stages of their life that could be used against them and would paint their cause in a horrible light - and by everyone I mean visionaries like Nelson Mandela, The Dali Lama, etc. and of course your run-of-the mill leaders and inspirational people.

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Post by dracht »

jacalata wrote: post #137
DominikR wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sexual assault? He said "they let you do it if you are rich and famous". Now that's real news. He didn't say that he'd force himself on them against their wishes. You might feel it's scummy to think that way but claiming this is sexual assault is ridiculous.

"They let you do it" is not consent, it's the absence of fighting back. A woman does not have to physically fight her attacker for it to be assault. Consider the phrasing "they let you do it if you hold a gun to their head".

Ridiculous analogy. Being rich and famous (=high status, attractive mate) is nothing like holding a gun to someone's head (=threat of violence). A fairer comparison might be "they let you do it if you look like Brad Pitt". Is that less sexual assault-y in your book?

Re: Workplace by Facebook opens to sell enterprise social networking to the masses

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Post by pmlnr »

Pamar wrote: post #57
gjolund wrote: post #40

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The last place I want to have work related conversations stored is FB servers.

I work in an European company. I doubt this will get any traction outside of US.

I work for a European company - unfortunately owned by a US holding. We're already using it.

This, unfortunately, might get traction here as well.

Re: Workplace by Facebook opens to sell enterprise social networking to the masses

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Post by pmlnr »

what_ever wrote: post #99
ohnomrbill wrote: post #73

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I try very hard to separate my work life and personal life. This would make me do one of two things: - Stop using facebook for personal purposes and treat it like a more featureful LinkedIn - Quit my job and find another which doesn't require me to give work information to a company which has a trove of my personal information

Are you okay with working at a company using Google Apps for Work/GSuite?

No, I'm not. But it appears that HiPPO decisions and their personal preference of Gmail over [other email software] is driving the world these days.

I'm well aware self-hosting can be hard, especially for global companies, with broad userbase, but I'm astounded how little managers and directors care about company "secrets" getting stored at providers these days.

I never thought I'm going to miss the old Microsoft, but at least those servers and services were bought and locally hosted. Sure, they may have had backdoors, but at least it was not obviously given to a company who's making their profit out of scanning contents and selling it to the highest bidder.

We don't know for sure it a paid Gmail is scannig mail or not; if a paid Dropbox is being treated the same way for, for example, "copyrighted" content the free tier is, but I would be surprised if it was completely different.

Re: Workplace by Facebook opens to sell enterprise social networking to the masses

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Post by pmlnr »

meira wrote: post #52
BinaryIdiot wrote: post #25

I don't get the negativity. This is kinda awesome! News feeds will be good to monitor what's going on across many groups / teams, groups can help your team post and communicate across various topics (same with messaging). Honestly the live video streams on demand is kinda huge; this isn't always something easy for companies to do especially large companies but Facebook can pull this off and make it look great for tho…

Microsoft, Google and Facebook are totally Lost haha. They seem to be converging to the same point, all of them as laggards.

I see this as an interesting circle of life, which is yet to reach hardware manufacturers: the fact the real, reliable money can only come from businesses.

The money - and the attention - of the generic population is momentary.

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