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Re: Workplace by Facebook opens to sell enterprise social networking to the masses

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Post by enraged_camel »

BinaryIdiot wrote: post #61
gjolund wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The last place I want to have work related conversations stored is FB servers.

Because you'd rather your work related conversations stored in Slack? Google Hangouts? Skype? GoToMeeting? There are not very many on prem solutions that are very good, so do you not use any of them or is it specifically against Facebook and if the latter why so?

Last time I checked, Slack's business model was not based on advertisements and they did not have an incentive to give/sell your data to third parties (I'm sorry, partners).

Re: Workplace by Facebook opens to sell enterprise social networking to the masses

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Post by DominikR »

jacalata wrote: post #137
DominikR wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sexual assault? He said "they let you do it if you are rich and famous". Now that's real news. He didn't say that he'd force himself on them against their wishes. You might feel it's scummy to think that way but claiming this is sexual assault is ridiculous.

"They let you do it" is not consent, it's the absence of fighting back. A woman does not have to physically fight her attacker for it to be assault. Consider the phrasing "they let you do it if you hold a gun to their head".

Apparently you have difficulty reasoning objectively about this issue. Let's agree to disagree and move on with life.

For you it's sexual assault because you imagine him attacking women without any warning while I on the other hand have no reason to believe that he isn't escalating sexually in a normal way, leaving room for women to say no or move a step back to signal a no.

Edit: When I think about it then I must be a sexual predator according to your definition. I cannot remember to have ever explicitly asked a women if I may kiss her.

Re: Workplace by Facebook opens to sell enterprise social networking to the masses

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Post by quickben »

BinaryIdiot wrote: post #81
EliRivers wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I, your competitor, will pay FB for your conversations. I expect we can work out a way to do it that isn't so brazen.

But if that's possible in any way FaceBook and the company paying would be subject to breaking many corporate espionage laws in addition to destroying FaceBook's enterprise business IN ITS ENTIRETY should it be found out. Seems like an insane amount of risk for such a very tiny reward.

No, Airbus as an example.

Re: Workplace by Facebook opens to sell enterprise social networking to the masses

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Post by lucasmullens »

Zelphyr wrote: post #118
onewaystreet wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mark Zuckerberg said those things when he was 19 over a decade ago. He's now a father, the CEO of a global company with over 12,000 employees and one of the richest people in the world. Maybe he has matured since then?

What evidence do we have that he has matured? It's not a matter of being an immature college kid anymore. In many respects he has a financial incentive to abuse people's privacy now.

I think it's fair to assume that going from a 19-year-old college kid to the CEO of a giant corporation involves maturing quite a bit.

Re: Workplace by Facebook opens to sell enterprise social networking to the masses

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Post by bhaumik »

sp332 wrote: post #22
bhaumik wrote: post #6

No thanks. Slack is distracting enough as is. Why would I want the rest of my social circle affecting my productivity?

Companies probably wouldn't allow it in if it involved being distracted by your social "circle". That's why it doesn't. It's a completely separate account.

Ah, misinterpreted. Ignore my note then.

Re: Workplace by Facebook opens to sell enterprise social networking to the masses

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Post by it33 »

mcmoose75 wrote: post #90
losteric wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well my company uses Mattermost in place of slack... on premise, open source, and free.

It's also not very good- both the desktop and iOS clients (that I use) are horribly slow to load, clunky, and require multiple (laggy) clicks just to get to a notification of a message. I'd much rather pay for something else, on-prem and open source be damned.

Hi @mcmoose75, highly appreciate the feedback.

Our open source community is always looking to improve and all feedback helps.

May I ask how your experience was on the web with Mattermost?

Regarding mobile performance, may I also ask what iPhone model and network speed you're using?

We publish mobile benchmarks, and I'm just wondering if your results are the same or different: https://docs.mattermost.com/deployment/push.html#mobile-perf...

The Mattermost iOS app works best on a fast connection. To accommodate slow connections, we're adding React Native (same technology as Facebook) to get competitive with Facebook's iOS app performance over time.

Here's the new Mattermost iOS app roadmap and backlog: http://forum.mattermost.org/t/react-native-roadmap/2339

Regarding the Mattermost desktop apps, on September 30 we had one of our largest product update addressing user issues. Here's the changelog: https://docs.mattermost.com/help/apps/desktop-changelog.html

Latest versions now available for download: http://about.mattermost.com/download/

Overall, we created an open source, self-hosted alternative to proprietary SaaS communication for organizations that want to minimize security, lock-in, and privacy risks.

We're constantly improving, thanks to hundreds of people around the world contributing to the project.

Whatever issue you're experiencing, please consider nominating an improvement to help us get to where you want us to be? https://www.mattermost.org/feature-ideas/

Re: Workplace by Facebook opens to sell enterprise social networking to the masses

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Post by benatkin »

nashadelic wrote: post #45
mahyarm wrote: post #31

The lack of slack/irc style large chatrooms is what killed fb@work adoption at my work. If fb wants to compete I think they will need to add that.

I believe that is deliberate and if Facebook wants to succeed beyond tech companies, it will do well not to add any programmer-happy / commands, @usernames and single-threaded chatrooms

Yep, that reminds me – :slack: actually comes with the :neckbeard: emoji. While I like Slack's quirky emojis I think it illustrates the point!

Re: Workplace by Facebook opens to sell enterprise social networking to the masses

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Post by matwood »

scient wrote: post #131
EliRivers wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I, your competitor, will pay FB for your conversations. I expect we can work out a way to do it that isn't so brazen.

I think you have no idea how to real world works. Most of the arguments against Facebook sadly seem to be wildly out of touch with reality. Amazing that these essentially conspiracy theories are cultivated by otherwise pretty smart people - software engineers.

I agree. If FB did such a thing it would end whatever enterprise business they hoped to gain.

Re: Workplace by Facebook opens to sell enterprise social networking to the masses

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Post by 0xmohit »

pmlnr wrote: post #104

https://workplace.fb.com/trust Sure. Also: Zuck: Yeah so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard Zuck: Just ask Zuck: I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS [Redacted Friend's Name]: What? How'd you manage that one? Zuck: People just submitted it. Zuck: I don't know why. Zuck: They "trust me" Zuck: Dumb fucks Just keep remembering that as well, please.

The brighter side is that FB could now be a trustworthy source of information about corporates.

Some of that information might also be useful for making informed decisions on whether to buy/sell a given security.

Oh actually, the possibilities are infinite.

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