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Re: Workplace by Facebook opens to sell enterprise social networking to the masses

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post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mark Zuckerberg said those things when he was 19 over a decade ago. He's now a father, the CEO of a global company with over 12,000 employees and one of the richest people in the world. Maybe he has matured since then?

Donald Trump bragged about how he sexually assaults women over a decade ago. He now might be president. Maybe he has matured since then?

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Re: Workplace by Facebook opens to sell enterprise social networking to the masses

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post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Donald Trump bragged about how he sexually assaults women over a decade ago. He now might be president. Maybe he has matured since then?

your last 3 comments have been about Trump, despite the topic not having anything to do with politics.

Hm. Maybe you should think about it more abstractly because these things are quite similar.

Re: Workplace by Facebook opens to sell enterprise social networking to the masses

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post #104

https://workplace.fb.com/trust Sure. Also: Zuck: Yeah so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard Zuck: Just ask Zuck: I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS [Redacted Friend's Name]: What? How'd you manage that one? Zuck: People just submitted it. Zuck: I don't know why. Zuck: They "trust me" Zuck: Dumb fucks Just keep remembering that as well, please.

Mark Zuckerberg said those things when he was 19 over a decade ago. He's now a father, the CEO of a global company with over 12,000 employees and one of the richest people in the world. Maybe he has matured since then?

Maybe he has matured since then?

And the interest and exploits from Facebook has grown as well.

I mean, of course he is not that naive to use Facebook to extract peoples pics/phone numbers.

But what he can extract from it has probably grown more than he did as a person.

I like him, but he has said what he has said and he is not saint (Snowden in this case).

Re: Workplace by Facebook opens to sell enterprise social networking to the masses

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post #117

Trump matured too. He doesn't really still want to sexually assault women. He's changed. Edit: The parent of my comment has completely morphed his original comment into what it is now.

Good for you, that you equate maturing of a teenager to maturing of 60 year old to 70 year old.

Re: Workplace by Facebook opens to sell enterprise social networking to the masses

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post #104

https://workplace.fb.com/trust Sure. Also: Zuck: Yeah so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard Zuck: Just ask Zuck: I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS [Redacted Friend's Name]: What? How'd you manage that one? Zuck: People just submitted it. Zuck: I don't know why. Zuck: They "trust me" Zuck: Dumb fucks Just keep remembering that as well, please.

People brag sometimes trying to look greater than they are, so whatever.

If you are attacking someone then please do it on substantive issues. (something that can be prosecuted)

For example the fact that Facebook engages in censorship (as does Google and Twitter by the way) and actively pushes propaganda trying their best to manipulate the US election. That's a real issue that might lead to some people being sued or even imprisoned after the election if their candidate doesn't win.

Re: Workplace by Facebook opens to sell enterprise social networking to the masses

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post #104

https://workplace.fb.com/trust Sure. Also: Zuck: Yeah so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard Zuck: Just ask Zuck: I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS [Redacted Friend's Name]: What? How'd you manage that one? Zuck: People just submitted it. Zuck: I don't know why. Zuck: They "trust me" Zuck: Dumb fucks Just keep remembering that as well, please.

I've worked with many startups. Seeing the security practices of early stage products, I am astounded that anyone gives them data. It's horrifying.

Like, right now I have access to some 300,000 phone numbers. All I gotta do is run a shell command and then a SQL query. So can any other engineer in the company. I trust that none of us would use this access maliciously, but how many of our passwords have been leaked in various hacks? What if we're targeted for a hack? What if somebody gets fired and becomes pissy? Hell, what if someone suffers a psychiatric episode and does something stupid?

Situation has been the same at every startup I have ever worked at.

Anyone who gives their data to an early stage startup is not considering all the implications. Me included. I do it all the time. Gotta have all the shiny tools.

Re: Workplace by Facebook opens to sell enterprise social networking to the masses

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post #30

Considering the backlash against Slack [0], it’ll be interesting to see if Messenger’s model of more “atomic” conversations will create less interruptions. Slack (much like IRC) really contributes to an expectation of continuous conversation throughout the day/night (although not all people deal with it that way). In comparison, Messenger (and other chat apps like WhatsApp, iMessage, etc.) seem to be more designed to…

I guess I do not really understand the backlash at Slack. I think it is more of highlighting broken company cultures. If someone expects an immediate response for any communication does it matter if it is Slack, the phone, your office, your email (plus follow up email and/or phone call)? For me Slack has cut down immensely on people randomly showing up in my office. Just forcing someone to write something down, and t…

> I think it is more of highlighting broken company cultures.

Then why are their own advertisements touting their product being used in dysfunctional ways? Doesn't that set the tone for how (and where) it will be deployed and used?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11197449

> The lion-manager is gazing out a window, has a passing thought about "flying umbrellas". Naturally, he instantly sends a mass-broadcast, interrupting and disrupting the work of the entire office. (Who all, of course, leap joyously to implement his brilliant vision.)

> Now, this makes a lot of sense if you want to sell copies of Slack, since it appeals to the managers with the power to approve-purchases and mandate-adoption... But it implies Slack is going to either become the latest tool-of-oppression at a dysfunctional company, or that managers are going to buy Slack with the idea that they can use it to micromanage everybody.

> Further on, as the Slack team adds features, guess what kinds of features are going to get priority? The ones that sell. Which ones are those? The ones that lion-managers love and other-employees hate.

Re: Workplace by Facebook opens to sell enterprise social networking to the masses

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post #104

https://workplace.fb.com/trust Sure. Also: Zuck: Yeah so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard Zuck: Just ask Zuck: I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS [Redacted Friend's Name]: What? How'd you manage that one? Zuck: People just submitted it. Zuck: I don't know why. Zuck: They "trust me" Zuck: Dumb fucks Just keep remembering that as well, please.

The simple solution to anyone concerned about this is to just stop using Facebook. I've done so and it turned out to be a great decision. Contrary to the belief that you'll be "left out," people can and do get in touch with you for the important things. SMS, email, phone, snapchat, etc all work really well today, and you can get your social news fix from reddit, HN, and elsewhere if you need it. I've gotten measurabl…

I couldn't agree with you more. I did the same a year ago and couldn't be happier. To be honest it made me really close with friends that really matters in my life.

Re: Workplace by Facebook opens to sell enterprise social networking to the masses

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post #126
post #104

https://workplace.fb.com/trust Sure. Also: Zuck: Yeah so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard Zuck: Just ask Zuck: I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS [Redacted Friend's Name]: What? How'd you manage that one? Zuck: People just submitted it. Zuck: I don't know why. Zuck: They "trust me" Zuck: Dumb fucks Just keep remembering that as well, please.

I've worked with many startups. Seeing the security practices of early stage products, I am astounded that anyone gives them data. It's horrifying. Like, right now I have access to some 300,000 phone numbers. All I gotta do is run a shell command and then a SQL query. So can any other engineer in the company. I trust that none of us would use this access maliciously, but how many of our passwords have been leaked in…

Except all of this stuff is most like covered in your contract and you would be sued your ass off if you would ever abuse the access you have, right?
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