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Apple Responds to Dash Controversy

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Re: Apple Responds to Dash Controversy

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post #17

So if I want to remove a competing app from the app store, all I have to do is buy them a bunch of fake reviews and Apple will ban them?

No. There is no evidence for this.

You're assuming that Apple has no process to distinguish between intentional fraudulent reviews coming from the developer in question, and random fraudulent reviews from others. But that assumption is not supported by any facts.

Re: Apple Responds to Dash Controversy

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post #4

This is a very weird definition of "proof". A much more accurate headline might be "Apple responds to Dash controversy by insisting they were right all along and refusing to provide proof." Edit: The tone of the entire article rubs me the wrong way; it reads like a press release that nobody could be bothered to re-write. > The integrity of the App Store is as important to Apple as it is to consumers. Citation needed?…

Unfortunately The Loop isn't much of a news site, more of a controlled Apple leak blog. Dalrymple has gotten to the point of being a complete Apple shill. Edit: Compare the tone of the Loop article to Daring Fireballs: http://daringfireball.net/2016/10/apple_dash_controversy Gruber takes a much more unbiased approach, supported well. The Loop article reads like a statement from the Principal read by your teacher.

Translation: he likes Apple products and is open about it, whereas I don't.

Re: Apple Responds to Dash Controversy

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I'm not familiar with this site, so this might be ignorant, but it seems strange. Bad copy on a wordpress site. At first is looks pretty official, but none of the "according to Apple" or "Apparently" quotes are cited or linked. Did Apple release a statement or press release about this? At the end it just says "it seems to me...". Who is this guy? Do we have a better source for this news?

Re: Apple Responds to Dash Controversy

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post #12

What if the fake reviews were paid for by a competitor, so they would get banned?

What if Apple just happened to be smart enough to think of the most obvious, very first question that would need to be asked in this situation?

Re: Apple Responds to Dash Controversy

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post #2

Well that's definitely strange. Why would the developer do such a thing when Dash is basically the best app of its kind out there? Edit: To other commenters, why would Apple accuse the dev of faking reviews if it wasn't true? I don't see Apple getting anything out of it.

>Well that's definitely strange. Why would the developer do such a thing when Dash is basically the best app of its kind out there?

Because few people care to check it out / buy it?

Being the "best of its kind", belonging to a popular app genre, and actually selling are three distinct things.

Re: Apple Responds to Dash Controversy

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So if you want to get your competitor banned from the App store, just post lots of spammy positive reviews for their product? How would you defend your app against such an attack?

That was my first thought as well... Even if in this case it was actually Dash putting up fake reviews, this seems like a slightly dangerous precedent to set.

It would be a big risk, but one could potentially buy 'false flag' reviews - throw some negative reviews on your own product, and positive reviews on your biggest competitor - It would hurt yourself in the short-term, but could pay off if you can get the competitor banned. Again, super risky, probably stupid strategy... But with the state of the 'app' market, I wouldn't be surprised if people would try it.

Re: Apple Responds to Dash Controversy

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Having dealt with nefarious characters in a pretty active community that was quick to defend their own members (even when they were being very naughty) I'll give my guess as to what's happened, basically assuming good faith in Apple, mainly to counter a lot of the questions here around "what if a competitor bought these..."

In cases where Apple is this certain (or seemingly certain) they usually have a smoking gun. That is, they have some kind of heuristic or action/event that is unquestionably tied to the developer. Perhaps a bunch of the positive reviews came from installs that used a developer freebie code, something only the developer could give out.

Also, smoking guns, when you're dealing with fraud and systems that people can manipulate, are the kind of thing you don't share with others.

I expect that Apple has seen _a lot_ of competitors trying to screw over other apps, and they would have exhausted that possibility before banning a popular app.

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