FreeBSD 11.0 Now Available

Post by loeg » Mon, Oct 10, 2016, 10:04 PM UTC

lucaspiller wrote: post #31

nickysielicki wrote: post #3

A couple things HN users might be excited about: * Docker via ZFS and jails (...running Linux x84-64 binaries): https://wiki.freebsd.org/Docker --- (See also, https://github.com/3ofcoins/jetpack ) * Add support for trackpads found in Apple MacBook products: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base?view=revision&revision=26126... * CloudABI executable support: https://nuxi.nl/cloudabi/freebsd/ This is an awesome release.

Is anyone using FreeBSD on their development machine? Are there any gotchas compared to Linux?

    * No SSL CA certificates out of the box.  FreeBSD security team has taken the
      curious posture of claiming that shipping no CAs is better than just
      shipping e.g. Mozilla's CA bundle.[0]

    * rc.d is like Linux init from 5 years ago.  Dynamic network configuration is
      not handled well.

    * Intel GPU driver support for anything above Haswell is still waiting to be
      merged.  But work is ongoing.[1]

    * No Xorg or session management out of the box.  You get dropped to a terminal
      console.  Good luck starting a session.

    * Some packages conflict with each other needlessly.  For  example, you cannot
      install gitk and git-svn at the same time.

    * Finally, the installer has some limited choices.  You can't enable full disk
      encryption for UFS with the installer (last time I checked, anyway).

Post by loeg » Mon, Oct 10, 2016, 10:08 PM UTC

crudbug wrote: post #40

erikarn wrote: post #30

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Hi! FreeBSD wifi person here! * ath(4)'s 11n support is much, much better now. All the AR93xx/AR95xx PCIe devices are supported and STA/AP 11n should work great. * iwn(4)'s 11n is much, much better. It still has some warts, and I'd love some help in chasing them down. * urtwn(4) in -HEAD does 11n now. * rsu(4) in -HEAD does 11n now. * iwm(4) (intel 7260, etc) is getting better every day in freebsd and dragonflybsd. T…

Thanks Adrian. I am not a device drivers person. But, quick query - do you reuse the current Linux drivers work [0]. Looking at the current client device deployment, Intel owns around 80% of the Wi-Fi modem market. Is anybody from Intel working on BSD wireless drivers as well. [0] https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers

Post by X86BSD » Mon, Oct 10, 2016, 10:13 PM UTC

floatboth wrote: post #46

lucaspiller wrote: post #31

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Is anyone using FreeBSD on their development machine? Are there any gotchas compared to Linux?

Using FreeBSD -CURRENT on my ThinkPad X240. Mostly works great. Can't resume from suspend on that particular laptop, but I can live without the sleep thing. For development, it's excellent! (Favorite things: non-GPL not-breaking-compatibility-every-day libc that doesn't cause any problems ever. Simple init system. Simple configuration files, moving towards using libucl everywhere. And libxo for output. Good documenta…

Post by dTal » Mon, Oct 10, 2016, 10:28 PM UTC

loeg wrote: post #52

lucaspiller wrote: post #31

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Is anyone using FreeBSD on their development machine? Are there any gotchas compared to Linux?

I use CURRENT on a Thinkpad X230. It works ok. Main gotchas: * No SSL CA certificates out of the box. FreeBSD security team has taken the curious posture of claiming that shipping no CAs is better than just shipping e.g. Mozilla's CA bundle.[0] * rc.d is like Linux init from 5 years ago. Dynamic network configuration is not handled well. * Intel GPU driver support for anything above Haswell is still waiting to be mer…

Post by tete » Mon, Oct 10, 2016, 10:42 PM UTC

qwertyuiop924 wrote: post #59

Have they fixed the remnants of the update security hole? I haven't been keeping up, so they might have done that already, but I thought I'd ask.