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Re: Workplace by Facebook opens to sell enterprise social networking to the masses

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Post by BinaryIdiot »

gjolund wrote: post #40
BinaryIdiot wrote: post #25

I don't get the negativity. This is kinda awesome! News feeds will be good to monitor what's going on across many groups / teams, groups can help your team post and communicate across various topics (same with messaging). Honestly the live video streams on demand is kinda huge; this isn't always something easy for companies to do especially large companies but Facebook can pull this off and make it look great for tho…

The last place I want to have work related conversations stored is FB servers.

Because you'd rather your work related conversations stored in Slack? Google Hangouts? Skype? GoToMeeting? There are not very many on prem solutions that are very good, so do you not use any of them or is it specifically against Facebook and if the latter why so?

Re: Workplace by Facebook opens to sell enterprise social networking to the masses

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Post by cheriot »

Pamar wrote: post #57
gjolund wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The last place I want to have work related conversations stored is FB servers.

I work in an European company. I doubt this will get any traction outside of US.

It was made in London. At least until someone triggers article 50 it's more European than American :) More to your point, the article mentions getting the privacy/security certifications that companies look for. And if you're paying for the product, there's not the privacy concerns as when you are the product, etc. I'm actually impressed with this thing so far.

Re: Workplace by Facebook opens to sell enterprise social networking to the masses

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Post by gjolund »

notyourwork wrote: post #58
gjolund wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The last place I want to have work related conversations stored is FB servers.

I don't understand your concern. Could you expand here?

Are you serious?

Take 5 minutes to think about it and see of you can't come up with a couple reasons.

Re: Workplace by Facebook opens to sell enterprise social networking to the masses

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Post by B1FF_PSUVM »

wodenokoto wrote: post #59
optim_cynic33 wrote: post #44

(Throwaway because this includes inside baseball theory and it's not appropriate to comment as my usual self) The technical document https://developers.facebook.com/docs/workplace/account-manag... includes an example to create a new user via an authenticated POST request. Previously facebook had a party line that each human had at most one facebook account (which was in contrast to its competitors where some humans h…

I think each workplace by facebook will have seperate users and separate domains, so the user-count of facebook-proper will not be affected by companies have bulk access to account creation. This should also keep facebook proper blockable. I didn't catch the baseball theory part of your comment advertised in the beginning.

It was a curve ball, probably he spit on it.

Re: Workplace by Facebook opens to sell enterprise social networking to the masses

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Post by eropple »

linkregister wrote: post #32
matwood wrote: post #30

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I guess I do not really understand the backlash at Slack. I think it is more of highlighting broken company cultures. If someone expects an immediate response for any communication does it matter if it is Slack, the phone, your office, your email (plus follow up email and/or phone call)? For me Slack has cut down immensely on people randomly showing up in my office. Just forcing someone to write something down, and t…

I agree; Slack includes features to disable notifications outside of working hours. An @here message will trigger a pop up with "sure you want to wake up the people outside of your time zone?" I have been fortunate enough to not be compelled to answer messages outside of working hours, even with 10-hour variance between time zones in a remote team. Can anyone describe a situation where the introduction of Slack chang…

"Changed", no. Reified an existing one by providing additional reinforcement to the expectations of instant access? Certainly.

Re: Workplace by Facebook opens to sell enterprise social networking to the masses

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Post by dan15 »

mahyarm wrote: post #31

The lack of slack/irc style large chatrooms is what killed fb@work adoption at my work. If fb wants to compete I think they will need to add that.

This is what I see groups for. Chat for small groups, Facebook groups for larger groups and long-form posts that require more in-depth discussion. This is what we do internally at Facebook and it works pretty well.

Re: Workplace by Facebook opens to sell enterprise social networking to the masses

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Post by Pamar »

cheriot wrote: post #62
Pamar wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I work in an European company. I doubt this will get any traction outside of US.

It was made in London. At least until someone triggers article 50 it's more European than American :) More to your point, the article mentions getting the privacy/security certifications that companies look for. And if you're paying for the product, there's not the privacy concerns as when you are the product, etc. I'm actually impressed with this thing so far.

I am in Germany. The NSA debacle made a lot of important people quite unhappy here, not to mention the current tensions between DBank & DOJ and so on... - so I am afraid we would interpret this a bit like Apple's labels, except in this case we would read:

Designed in NSA - Made in UK.

Re: Workplace by Facebook opens to sell enterprise social networking to the masses

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Post by baby »

gjolund wrote: post #40
BinaryIdiot wrote: post #25

I don't get the negativity. This is kinda awesome! News feeds will be good to monitor what's going on across many groups / teams, groups can help your team post and communicate across various topics (same with messaging). Honestly the live video streams on demand is kinda huge; this isn't always something easy for companies to do especially large companies but Facebook can pull this off and make it look great for tho…

The last place I want to have work related conversations stored is FB servers.

If you're doing anything sensitive obviously this is not a product targeting your company. I don't see what ranting about this will accomplish.

Like you my company won't use it for privacy issue (we're dealing with sensitive things), but I still find that awesome.

Re: Workplace by Facebook opens to sell enterprise social networking to the masses

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Post by EliRivers »

notyourwork wrote: post #58
gjolund wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The last place I want to have work related conversations stored is FB servers.

I don't understand your concern. Could you expand here?

I, your competitor, will pay FB for your conversations. I expect we can work out a way to do it that isn't so brazen.

Re: Workplace by Facebook opens to sell enterprise social networking to the masses

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

linkregister wrote: post #47
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #41

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The American surveillance infrastructure was deployed, allegedly for corporate espionage, against targets in France [1], Germany and Brazil [2]. The IMF, the World Bank and the EU antitrust commissioner, amongst others, were likely targeted to help politically-connected companies [3]. [1] http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/wikileaks-enthuellung-... [2] https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150629/16134031494/nsa-d..…

I appreciate your links to articles about espionage activities with corporate targets. None of them mention any examples of economic benefit, due or undue. The infamous Petrobras espionage that was implied because it appeared in a slide in a training presentation is a great example of justified espionage (if it occurred; it probably occurred). Less than 2 years later, Petrobras was implicated in massive corruption sc…

The Intercept article [1] references the DNI's 2009 Quadriennial Intelligence Community review report [2] which "envisions a scenario in which companies from India and Russia work together to develop technological innovation, and the U.S. intelligence community then 'conducts cyber operations' against 'research facilities' in those countries, acquires their proprietary data, and then 'assesses whether and how its findings would be useful to U.S. industry'."

So no, we don't have a smoking gun. But we do have a powerful agency with questionable oversight which has proven its willingness to lie to Congress and documented its willingness to deploy intelligence assets in ways that prove "useful to U.S. industry".

[1] https://theintercept.com/2014/09/05/us-governments-plans-use...

[2] https://theintercept.com/document/2014/09/05/quadrennial-int...

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