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This Generation Is Most Likely to Swear at Work

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Re: This Generation Is Most Likely to Swear at Work

#41

Maybe it's just me, but I don't give two shits about swear words. They are the same as other words to me and have almost no negative connotation. I don't think twice about swearing at work, and neither do the other people my age (24) that I work with.

I'm sure there are plenty of words you think are beyond the pale, they're just different from the ones previous generations did.

Re: This Generation Is Most Likely to Swear at Work

#42

Maybe it's just me, but I don't give two shits about swear words. They are the same as other words to me and have almost no negative connotation. I don't think twice about swearing at work, and neither do the other people my age (24) that I work with.

I'm in my mid 30's and generally agree with this attitude.

However, I have a couple of rules:

1) Avoid swearing with clients/customers/investors, at least wait until a relationship is established and they signal they're okay with it.

2) Avoid swearing in written communication, e.g., in emails or commit messages – don't even really like seeing it in team-wide slack channels, though I do it occasionally.

I don't mind swearing personally, but I do think it can be rude or unprofessional. Part of it is just signaling that you understand business etiquette and how to be polite in that setting – i.e., "professional."

For example, if I'm interviewing someone who immediately starts dropping tons of f-bombs, I'm going to judge that negatively – not as a deal breaker but as a warning flag.

I guess it would be similar to how I'd react if somebody immediately launched into a diatribe about religion or politics (regardless of whether I sympathized with their view). Like swearing, they're fine in a conversation between acquaintances, but they can easily veer into offensive territory if you don't know the other person. If you don't understand or don't care that you might be offending someone, I would be concerned about your ability to communicate effectively.

Re: This Generation Is Most Likely to Swear at Work

#43
At least when it comes to startups this makes total sense. Work is increasingly both your work and your life. Your friends are increasingly your colleagues.

Traditionally you don't cuss in the work place b/c you have to stay professional - ie. you have to not be emotional about your work. Cussing is a form of injecting emotion into your speech. If you are at the office 12 hours a day with your friends, then the lines get blurred.

Personally I don't like the trend, but to each his own. There are pluses and minuses to each type of workplace

Re: This Generation Is Most Likely to Swear at Work

#44
post #5

Replacing millennials with snake people is especially funny in this article. I wonder if millennials are more likely to replace words with other words using browser plugins.

> especially funny in this article.

So it's marginally funny at best?

on topic:

I swear occasionally, not that often, in conversations with people.

I mutter swear words under my breath at my computer in a constant stream some days.

Re: This Generation Is Most Likely to Swear at Work

#45
post #39

Click bait I'm not clicking on. Advice from an almost-millennial (born 1981) and someone that's hired and fired countless programmers: don't swear at work, it makes you sound stupid. Some days you will swear more than others because some days and situations fucking suck. Don't call people names regardless of your stance on swearing. Know the audience, all communication should be tailored to who is listening, you shou…

I agree with the "know the audience" part.

As in: much of your audience here isn't American, and you obviously are.

Re: This Generation Is Most Likely to Swear at Work

#46
post #18

Maybe it's just me, but I don't give two shits about swear words. They are the same as other words to me and have almost no negative connotation. I don't think twice about swearing at work, and neither do the other people my age (24) that I work with.

Swearing is fucking lazy. Fuckig thing adds bloody nothing to damn sentences. No fucking value. Observe. Swearing is lazy. It adds nothing to sentences. No value. Which version was clearer? Caveat: swearing used strategically can be fucking beautiful.

The lazy part here is your writing and argumentation, not the fucking swearing.

Re: This Generation Is Most Likely to Swear at Work

#47

I dunno, the old French guy at our office swears like a sailor, most of the younger peeps are quite tame in comparison.

In the grandest tradition of Anglophones, I have at times borrowed words like "merde", "schiesse", and "cào nǐ mā" (with atonal pronunciation) from other languages, whenever I'd like to express something in colorful metaphors without other people necessarily understanding it to be vulgar.

So if I were you, I'd probably take notes.

This might one day get me into trouble while traveling outside the US, which generally only knows English and Spanish.

Re: This Generation Is Most Likely to Swear at Work

#49
post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's about the attitude it fosters and enables. It enables and fosters 'bro' culture and 'bachellorette' culture. And that can lead to people thinking it's okay to refer to others as bitches and duchebags etc.

Nope. I am a sysadmin, I frequently swear in the most vulgar and crass way. However I do not and will not tolerate 'bro' culture. If you are acting like a cunt to my fellow worker, I will make your work life a fuck sight more testing. Do not pick on my fellow man/women, for I shall haunt you like a wet fart.

Oh a sysadmin who is proud to be an asshole to people. No one saw that coming

Re: This Generation Is Most Likely to Swear at Work

#50
Years ago, I stopped using profanity at work, unless it's in private conversations with people I really trust and/or consider close personal friends.

It's partly out of simple respect for my coworkers, but a big motivation is the personal risk involved. These days, there are more than a few people who will complain to HR about anything and everything that might offend them. And I simply don't want to be on the receiving end of any of those complaints.

And what's ironic, is the people I'm referring to, at least in my company, are by and large millennials, who, according to the article, are big users of profanity in the workplace. I've had complaints lodged against me for simply speaking bluntly, well within my authority, and not using the "praise sandwich" when correcting someone who had totally screwed something up. Both times I was fully exonerated, I'm happy to say. But it might have gone a different way had I laced my blunt statements with profanity.

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