A decentralized web would give power back to the people online

Post by icebraining » Sun, Oct 09, 2016, 6:40 PM UTC

jshen wrote: post #136

icebraining wrote: post #45

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Have you looked into Sandstorm? Their whole goal is to make installing server apps as easy as in mobile platforms, while securing them from the outside and each other, and allowing the user to switch providers bringing their apps and data along. It's really quite awesome: https://sandstorm.io/

Here's something from the first part of the install which is not something a normal person would ever do: Configure the EC2 security groups (firewall) to let you reach Sandstorm By default, Amazon EC2 protects your virtual machine from being reached over the Internet. In the above tutorial, we allow the virtual machine to be reached on port 80. By default, Sandstorm uses port 6080, so look through the above tutorial…

Post by watchdogtimer » Sun, Oct 09, 2016, 6:47 PM UTC

chestnut-tree wrote: post #35

A real barrier to a decentralised web is the difficulty of installing software on a server. I know that sounds really mundane and inconsequential in the broader debate about a decentralised web, but consider the following... Imagine if installing a server-side chat app, message board, project management app, or CMS were as easy as installing a desktop app. In a desktop app, it's usually one click to start the install…

Post by cocktailpeanuts » Sun, Oct 09, 2016, 6:51 PM UTC

35bge57dtjku wrote: post #191

cocktailpeanuts wrote: post #180

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If you want to say something like this, at least back it up with something. Anyone can say "You two are both wrong" and sound smart. Also which part of "people don't understand" is not condescending? Funny enough, I watched this movie called Barton Fink last night, and it's a perfect depiction of this nonsense.

> Also which part of "people don't understand" is not condescending? How is asserting a fact like that in any way condescending?

Post by Arathorn » Sun, Oct 09, 2016, 6:59 PM UTC

Arathorn wrote: post #165

clydethefrog wrote: post #85

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Maybe inform them? Several comments on (centralized ;) ) social media are criticising the article because of the way it's written instead of discussing the message of the article, sure TC doesn't want that.

yup, I mailed/pinged them within 45 mins of it going up; no response yet :(

Post by zer0gravity » Sun, Oct 09, 2016, 7:23 PM UTC

cocktailpeanuts wrote: post #140

zer0gravity wrote: post #116

So nobody can "give the power back" to anybody, but people can stop giving their power away to others. We all have power, and we manifest it through our actions and choices. Some say knowledge is power, but in order to gain knowledge you have to make that choice. One can try to educate people about the benefits of hosting their own data, but unless they make the choice to listen and understand it's all for nothing. I…

The "People don't understand" is a condescending statement and is exactly the reason why the people who try to build these decentralized systems never succeed, because they don't even understand why people use information silos. If you really think that's the problem and you think you know better than other people, you should quit using every single centralized system out there, like your bank (they take your money a…