I think that article is missing one important thing. "Web 3.0" needs a killer app! Something which is not simple to duplicate in current centralized web and still It's very attractive to web users.
A decentralized web would give power back to the people online
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Re: A decentralized web would give power back to the people online
#142Earlier quoted context omitted.
>>I tend to agree with others that posted here, that in general, people are just not interested. It may be too hard for them to grasp the real implications of giving all those informations about them to third parties.. They may also consider that it's too hard to handle all those problems by themselves so they're willing to pay the prices... It's true that many users who give away their data are not cognizant of the…
But we're not talking about them. We're talking about the millions of people who don't want that deal, or wouldn't if they thought about it, but are currently being forced into it by network effects and lack of existing viable alternatives.
I'm talking about them because I disagree with the ideological sentiment that they are not a significant portion (perhaps majority) of the population. How did you quantify the "millions of people" who you claim are ignorant or unwillingly forced into it?
It's easy for people to misunderstand others' values as being based on misconceptions and assume they are either ignorant or malicious. Members of identity groups (i.e. everyone) tend to, in the aggregate, treat their beliefs as positive statements, not normative ones.
Bringing this back to the subject at hand - the point I'm making is relevant because I would postulate that most people make this deal while being reasonably cognizant of the consequences, and simply being okay with it. They don't need to understand how the data is used at a deeply technical level to understand that it can be used in ways that reduce their overall privacy.
I know many non-technical people who can demonstrate an awareness of the way their data is used to impact their privacy in tech products, and they're okay with it. I even know many technical folks who use the typical banter about the NSA, government surveillance and corporate privacy indiscretions ironically, and don't actually care. They just think it's humorous.
Re: A decentralized web would give power back to the people online
#143Ironically, GitHub is a prime example of why centralisation is harmful. If GitHub suddenly disappeared tomorrow (or even just went offline for a few hours), many software build processes in the world would grind to a halt. Sure, because Git is a decentralised protocol eventually it'd all be brought back up again but it'd cause a major disruption and at the very least create enormous costs.
You could easily move tomorrow to another git based service. The only stuff missing would be issue management.
A an enterprise Github subscriber, we would lose user authentication and authorization.
Re: A decentralized web would give power back to the people online
#144I think that article is missing one important thing. "Web 3.0" needs a killer app! Something which is not simple to duplicate in current centralized web and still It's very attractive to web users.
It still pains me to see that Mozilla Persona failed.
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#145Ehm... how can you decentralise backbone services, that can do anything to your ISP if it does not comply. Say, tomorrow as a counter-terrorist measure, your ISP will be enforced to close all encrypted p2p traffic, you won't be able to do anything to circumvent top level traffic control policies.
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#146The most advanced decentralized system Ive seen in web 3.0 is also the one Tim Berners-Lee talks about, solid. While still very new, I think it has more than sufficient power to take back your data from the large monopolies. One nice feature, as you'd expect from the inventor of the web, is that it's 100% backwards compatible with existing Web technology. https://github.com/solid/solid Link to github repo above
What is the difference/relationship between this and https://www.w3.org/TR/activitypub/?
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#147Because Techcrunch didn't link to any of the projects they're talking about, here they are: https://ipfs.io/ http://dat-data.com/ https://blockstack.org/ https://www.ethereum.org/
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#148The only real way to 'give power to people' and 'decentralize' is to run your own ISP and launch your own satellite, and to negotiate gating your uplink to those forever centralized, otherwise your free netizens will only be able to ping each other within your enclave. And, if I may ask, what shall you do as 'free ISP' without IP addresses, huh? Like Agent Smith told Neo:"What good is in phone call if you are unable to speak?"
Re: A decentralized web would give power back to the people online
#149Earlier quoted context omitted.
Or if GitHub became Sourceforge.
Didn't GitHub jump the shark already after that notorious faux diversity presentation?
Not really, SourceForge bundled adware with downloads which effected all end users, GitHub did some daft presentation that had zero impact on anyone who didn't see it and not much on those of us who did.
Re: A decentralized web would give power back to the people online
#150It would really be interesting to see something like a "personal SOLID server" that runs on your phone, and is reachable in IPv6 only (or through tunneling via "DNS for people", replacing phonebooks conceptually and handled as a separate distributed service).
The biggest obstacle to running a personal server is that it must always be on, and always be connected. Using cell phones (which certainly have the capacity for most individuals) would make that easy, and also refocuses "my data" into a physical concept. When you used to unplug your phone, the entry in the phonebook would fail. Now, when you turn off your phone, you "go dark" in the truest sense. It would be very easy to have a secondary battery that powers a low power coprocessor optimized for this task so that even when your phone dies, the server lasts a while longer (say 48 hours?).
I think ultimately if we're going to live in a world of personal data ownership in the truest sense, our data must be something tangible we can carry with us (and that isn't an extra thing to carry).
Of course, you'd want to back up that server config and your data, so there would be monetized services for that. Celebrities and business owners would have substantially more traffic or need to be online all the time, and as a result would need to actually pay for hosting and maintenance as a function of their utility. This introduces yet another market.
And throughout this whole system, you are now explicitly trusting your data as an object to a company for their services. You are not participating on their platform while they farm your interactions.
Any thoughts or criticisms?