A decentralized web would give power back to the people online

Post by hga » Sun, Oct 09, 2016, 2:52 PM UTC

Scirra_Tom wrote: post #44

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The centralization is a good point, but I wanted to ask about why > we don't have liberal newspapers anymore in the U.S. Most conservatives would say the papers and media outlets are _all_ liberal. Would you expand on that spectrum? > it's unethical to surf the web without using an adblocker It's also unethical to insert malware into ads, or to hire syndication services that allow it. I'll continue to block until tha…

> Most conservatives would say the papers and media outlets are _all_ liberal. Would you expand on that spectrum? Really? Isn't Fox ranked at like number 2? If anyone think that's liberal they need to realign their gauges

Post by api » Sun, Oct 09, 2016, 2:54 PM UTC

CalRobert wrote: post #57

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Living billboard arrives to announce, drumroll please : sandstorm.io The auto updating server that you can self-host or use as a hosted service, allowing you to install and uninstall lots of applications, both free and proprietary, just by clicking the button. (No, not paid to tell this unless you count the stickers I got. And no, not perfect but still a refreshing change.)

Sandstorm is awesome. Of course, it would help if ISP's weren't so keen to make sure nobody actually uses the internet to make computers talk to each other, instead of just having Amazon, FB, and Google's computers talk at you.

Post by sukilot » Sun, Oct 09, 2016, 2:56 PM UTC

infodroid wrote: post #65

Decentralized services have not been able to compete with their walled garden counterparts due to lack of resources and access to capital, as well as the coordination costs of federation. It's a structural and not a technical problem. I can't see how this will ever change. Most decentralized services are open source projects maintained by volunteer developers. They are competing with centralized commercial projects w…

Post by hga » Sun, Oct 09, 2016, 2:57 PM UTC

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Actually, not so much. There was some but largely limited advertising in the 19th century, but the start date was February of 1860, when The Atlantic accepted its first print ad. The practice exploded in the late 19th and early 20th century, with the rise of the factory process and widespread distribution networks, such that goods could be centrally produced and sold in distant markets. Alexander Holt discussed this…

>, but the start date was February of 1860, when The Atlantic accepted its first print ad Can you explain the criteria for "advertising" such that 1860 is marked as the significant date? There were paid ads in newspapers/pamphlets in the 1600s: https://www.brent.gov.uk/media/387509/Newspaper_advertising_... That said, I think it's reasonable to set boundary date of when newspapers switched the majority of their susta…

Post by ocdtrekkie » Sun, Oct 09, 2016, 2:57 PM UTC

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Sandstorm is awesome. Of course, it would help if ISP's weren't so keen to make sure nobody actually uses the internet to make computers talk to each other, instead of just having Amazon, FB, and Google's computers talk at you.

ISPs don't do that. That's your NAT/firewall. Has anyone ever actually seen an ISP network that filters local traffic to other ISP endpoints? I'm not even sure why they would do that. DDOS almost always targets big things in the cloud so it would not help there. Here (SoCal) traceroute to a host in the same local neighborhood is three hops.