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Another replacement Samsung Galaxy Note 7 has caught fire

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Re: Another replacement Samsung Galaxy Note 7 has caught fire

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I think there is a small chance of any modern phone catching fire. I saw a news article about the same thing happening to a new iPhone 7. The first batches of note 7 were defective so they had a higher chance of combustion. I'm pretty sure that's not the case with replacement phones. This is just some sensationalist "journalism".

The batteries in modern smartphones are very easy to get wrong. So, it's not specifically the phone itself which combusts, but the battery.

Re: Another replacement Samsung Galaxy Note 7 has caught fire

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This problem (+ the fact that it still hasn't been fixed) and the pricing of recent big-brand models makes me consider buying from Chinese manufacturers suchs a Xiaomi, OnePlus etc

Chinese manufacturers aren't exactly well known for good lithium battery safety. IIRC the entire reason amazon banned hoverboards was because they couldn't tell which Chinese manufacturers used safe batteries.

Re: Another replacement Samsung Galaxy Note 7 has caught fire

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I wonder if this is the reason: "I inspected the kernel source code. Samsung charges the note 7 battery at just over 4.35v Older models have 4.35v batteries but only charge to 4.3v. If you put a generic 4.2v lithium ion battery in, they survive 4.3v with a reduction in charge cycles but anything above that causes formation of metallic lithium dendrites, a non reversible process that eventually causes a fire. This pol…

Other Reddit threads have stated that this is inaccurate, and the S6+ use 4.4V batteries.

Re: Another replacement Samsung Galaxy Note 7 has caught fire

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I think there is a small chance of any modern phone catching fire. I saw a news article about the same thing happening to a new iPhone 7. The first batches of note 7 were defective so they had a higher chance of combustion. I'm pretty sure that's not the case with replacement phones. This is just some sensationalist "journalism".

A small chance does not show up with 3 phones catching fire within a week. How many of these phones would have even made it into customer's hands during that time. I doubt it is eve fair to say there is a "chance" they will catch fire, but let us say there is. What is the "chance" that they will all catch fire within the first few days of use? This is all quite damning, and unfortunately is probably going to put a de…

>This is all quite damning, and unfortunately is probably going to put a dent in Android adoption

Not likely. There are tons of other Android phones that people can use (including the new pixel). Everyone I've talked to (including non technical people) about this have associated this with Samsung, not Android.

Re: Another replacement Samsung Galaxy Note 7 has caught fire

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post #13

This problem (+ the fact that it still hasn't been fixed) and the pricing of recent big-brand models makes me consider buying from Chinese manufacturers suchs a Xiaomi, OnePlus etc

Chinese manufacturers aren't exactly well known for good lithium battery safety. IIRC the entire reason amazon banned hoverboards was because they couldn't tell which Chinese manufacturers used safe batteries.

I agree, this is part of my point. If the big brands manufacturing under stricter regulations still face the same problems then why pay the premium?

Re: Another replacement Samsung Galaxy Note 7 has caught fire

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post #13

This problem (+ the fact that it still hasn't been fixed) and the pricing of recent big-brand models makes me consider buying from Chinese manufacturers suchs a Xiaomi, OnePlus etc

Chinese manufacturers aren't exactly well known for good lithium battery safety. IIRC the entire reason amazon banned hoverboards was because they couldn't tell which Chinese manufacturers used safe batteries.

There's a difference between whatever-random-flybynight-hoverboard company and, say, Huawei or OnePlus.

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I hope. Cause I just bought a OnePlus 3 after being really disappointed by the Pixel phone. Like who made google think they could charge iphone money for a nexus -- $750 plus tax so over $800 to get something with 64G of space?

The OnePlus has been out since June and while there are sporadic reports of fires (just like there are sporadic reports of iphone fires), there's nothing like the wave of reports of Samsung phones catching fire.

Re: Another replacement Samsung Galaxy Note 7 has caught fire

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I think there is a small chance of any modern phone catching fire. I saw a news article about the same thing happening to a new iPhone 7. The first batches of note 7 were defective so they had a higher chance of combustion. I'm pretty sure that's not the case with replacement phones. This is just some sensationalist "journalism".

I hadn't heard anything about an iPhone 7 catching fire, so I just looked into it. And it's pretty obvious that the box was badly damaged. So no, the iPhone 7 did not catch fire under normal conditions, it was heavily damaged first.

Photos of the packaging: http://imgur.com/a/LrhYz

Re: Another replacement Samsung Galaxy Note 7 has caught fire

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Chinese manufacturers aren't exactly well known for good lithium battery safety. IIRC the entire reason amazon banned hoverboards was because they couldn't tell which Chinese manufacturers used safe batteries.

I agree, this is part of my point. If the big brands manufacturing under stricter regulations still face the same problems then why pay the premium?

Why not say that or at least add that to your post in the first place/

Re: Another replacement Samsung Galaxy Note 7 has caught fire

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Harsh but well said: "At this point, it’s irresponsible for us to say anything else: If you own a Samsung Galaxy Note 7 you should immediately stop using it and return it for a refund (...) The Samsung Galaxy Note 7 is a fundamentally defective product and it should be pulled from the market without delay." Not sure what's going on, but it looks like Samsung is handling this extremely poorly.

This is bollocks. USA being larger country and all just does not cut it for me. Why we have not heard about a single incident from Asian customers ??? You know Korea, Hong Kong, Macau, Japan....

I believe there's a higher percentage of people in US that will try to tamper with the phones and trigger the dangerous reaction. I would not be surprised it's the other OEMs trying to pull the stunt here.

Do not take me wrong I am not trying to defend Samsung here but I can't believe all of the accidents would happen only in the US. You know...statistics!!!

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