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Strongly Encouraging XCode Lets Apple Switch Architectures

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Re: Strongly Encouraging XCode Lets Apple Switch Architectures

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I don't get it. As long as an ARM binary or a 'Super-Secret A4 Architecture' binary is produced, who cares? I can write Objective C code in TextMate and then use xcodebuild from the command line to build a fully functional iPhone or iPad app.

Adobe cares, because Flash CS5 only generates ARM code, not secret-crackpot-processor code. In theory.

Re: Strongly Encouraging XCode Lets Apple Switch Architectures

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This analysis is not yet mainstream

Good, because it's wrong.

but will add tremendous fuel to the fire that perhaps the A4 is NOT an ARM architecture.

No it won't

In fact, it’s highly possible that the A4 is a dual core Power Architecture

No it's not.

If you read other articles from that site claiming that the A4 is PowerPC, it becomes clear that the author came up with the PowerPC theory months ago (before the iPad was released - see http://markstechchat.blogspot.com/2010/02/ipad-saga-week-3-a... for example) and is now grasping at any straw to avoid being wrong.

Re: Strongly Encouraging XCode Lets Apple Switch Architectures

#23
Sound like bullshit. Apple didn't mandate the use of XCode, they mandated the use of C, C++, or Objective C. They also said you can't use a layer that generates C, C++, or Objective C.

If all they want is for you to use their compiler/linker, etc. then there should be no reason you can't use a tool that compiles actionscript, javascript, lua, etc down to C code which you then compile with Apple's compiler.

Face it, there are no credible explanations for the new TOS other than simply blocking a competitor (ie, Adobe) from having access to your platform.

Frankly, I'm more than a little surprised to see such a pro-free market crowd as HN so supportive of the new iPhone TOS.

Re: Strongly Encouraging XCode Lets Apple Switch Architectures

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post #19

> This incredible foresight will allow Apple to stay agile and maneuver in the face of what will be unrelenting competition I mean, there's plenty of arguments on both sides of it — yay Apple can make changes on a whim, boo my custom-baked solution makes me so productive — but calling it "incredible foresight" is a little overzealous. From Apple's perspective, they want an additional element of control, and to call i…

"Ripped Carbon out"? ... well, yes, but they gave people many years of warning, and still support it in 32-bit mode in 10.6.

Re: Strongly Encouraging XCode Lets Apple Switch Architectures

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah, but that doesn't matter, because they're emulating ARM, you see.

The jailbreakers are emulating ARM too? The conspiracy deepens!

They could be running the iPhone OS as a hardware-virtualized VM!

Re: Strongly Encouraging XCode Lets Apple Switch Architectures

#26

Sound like bullshit. Apple didn't mandate the use of XCode, they mandated the use of C, C++, or Objective C. They also said you can't use a layer that generates C, C++, or Objective C. If all they want is for you to use their compiler/linker, etc. then there should be no reason you can't use a tool that compiles actionscript, javascript, lua, etc down to C code which you then compile with Apple's compiler. Face it, t…

The free markets argument in favor of the new TOS: it's a free market, and Apple should be able to ship whatever product they want.

Re: Strongly Encouraging XCode Lets Apple Switch Architectures

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post #26

Sound like bullshit. Apple didn't mandate the use of XCode, they mandated the use of C, C++, or Objective C. They also said you can't use a layer that generates C, C++, or Objective C. If all they want is for you to use their compiler/linker, etc. then there should be no reason you can't use a tool that compiles actionscript, javascript, lua, etc down to C code which you then compile with Apple's compiler. Face it, t…

The free markets argument in favor of the new TOS: it's a free market, and Apple should be able to ship whatever product they want.

I don't believe we've heard anyone calling for the government to step in and force them to. But people are free to express why they think its a bad idea, for them and for Apple (in the long term), just as you are free to disagree with them.

Re: Strongly Encouraging XCode Lets Apple Switch Architectures

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The jailbreakers are emulating ARM too? The conspiracy deepens!

They could be running the iPhone OS as a hardware-virtualized VM!

...and then it's turtles all the way down!

Re: Strongly Encouraging XCode Lets Apple Switch Architectures

#30

I don't get it. As long as an ARM binary or a 'Super-Secret A4 Architecture' binary is produced, who cares? I can write Objective C code in TextMate and then use xcodebuild from the command line to build a fully functional iPhone or iPad app.

Apple cares, because they don't want any significant portion of their application marketplace on the iThings to be controlled by any single API vendor, which would give that vendor market and PR leverage that Apple doesn't want them to have. It's not about compatability or looks or anything else...

Just think about the transition from PPC to INtel. For Xcode users - this was pretty much cake. The had to add some code in some cases, but it was a fairly easy task. If, on the other hand, some other compiler run by someone else, hostile to apple, was the preferred platform for most apple developers, apple would have had a hell of a time pulling off a move like that.

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