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RethinkDB, SageMath, Andreessen-Horowitz, Basecamp and Open Source Software

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Re: RethinkDB, SageMath, Andreessen-Horowitz, Basecamp and Open Source Software

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The open source project that has really stood out to me in terms of funding is vuejs.org who's funding is almost entirely public at https://www.patreon.com/evanyou

In the case of RethinkDB I wish they had started Horizon much sooner. Having plugins like for Stripe will make Horizon usable in the real world. I certainly like the goal set for Horizon that it be easy to extend a Horizon app by embedding it in a Node app. I just found the lack of step by step tutorial and several examples frustrating.

I've just started learning about business stuff. I've gone to three Seattle Lean Startup events. I've learned a lot. Two key things I've learned that are helping me are make a working engine before raising money so that money is just gas and focus on making something that people pay for.

Being involved in SMC I'm very glad that VC hasn't been taken. I'm not convinced that VC would make things much better.

Re: RethinkDB, SageMath, Andreessen-Horowitz, Basecamp and Open Source Software

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The open source project that has really stood out to me in terms of funding is vuejs.org who's funding is almost entirely public at https://www.patreon.com/evanyou In the case of RethinkDB I wish they had started Horizon much sooner. Having plugins like for Stripe will make Horizon usable in the real world. I certainly like the goal set for Horizon that it be easy to extend a Horizon app by embedding it in a Node app…

> The open source project that has really stood out to me in terms of funding is vuejs.org who's funding is almost entirely public at https://www.patreon.com/evanyou

I'm excited about the success here, but it's extremely atypical. Most open source projects gets tens of dollars a month, barring large sponsors (despite over 100 sponsors, 80% of Evan's funding comes from the top 11 sponsors)

Re: RethinkDB, SageMath, Andreessen-Horowitz, Basecamp and Open Source Software

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To understand what happened to RethinkDB, you want to contrast it with MongoDB.

RethinkDB is amazing software and a real breakthrough. And the audience of deep thinking people who can really leverage the event model is ... limited. Today.

MongoDB is no breakthrough, but there are legions of people who just want to plug something together with PHP or Node. Given what they're doing, it works fine.

I sincerely hope Rethink can turn into a vibrant open source project and I'm willing to donate money to that. Given sufficient time, the world will learn to use it. And until then, it will grant superpowers to people willing to invest a little effort to understand and leverage it.

Re: RethinkDB, SageMath, Andreessen-Horowitz, Basecamp and Open Source Software

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>I think Basecamp itself is mostly closed source, so they may have an advantage in building a business.

I think it's the exact opposite. Basecamp is mostly open source. Ruby on Rails is basically extracted from the Basecamp application. They've open sourced even their Trix Editor (https://github.com/basecamp/trix).

Edit: capitalization

Re: RethinkDB, SageMath, Andreessen-Horowitz, Basecamp and Open Source Software

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To understand what happened to RethinkDB, you want to contrast it with MongoDB. RethinkDB is amazing software and a real breakthrough. And the audience of deep thinking people who can really leverage the event model is ... limited. Today. MongoDB is no breakthrough, but there are legions of people who just want to plug something together with PHP or Node. Given what they're doing, it works fine. I sincerely hope Reth…

FWIW I found Rethink easier than Mongo, especially the query language. ReQL is actual JavaScript—Mongo's query language always seemed weird to me.

Mongo was "there" first and generated a lot of hype through sales and marketing. For a while and probably still now, a lot of Hackathons at college campuses are sponsored by Mongo and you can usually get a prize for using Mongo in your project.

Rethink never marketed themselves too much—it was one of those things you found out about in HN or from another dev.

I'm clueless about business stuff so I don't mean to say Rethink should've marketed heavily like Mongo did, but that's definitely a factor. I also think Rethink should've done Horizon earlier and offered paid hosting/deployment for it and Rethink users.

Re: RethinkDB, SageMath, Andreessen-Horowitz, Basecamp and Open Source Software

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The open source project that has really stood out to me in terms of funding is vuejs.org who's funding is almost entirely public at https://www.patreon.com/evanyou In the case of RethinkDB I wish they had started Horizon much sooner. Having plugins like for Stripe will make Horizon usable in the real world. I certainly like the goal set for Horizon that it be easy to extend a Horizon app by embedding it in a Node app…

What differentiates Vue from all the other client rendering libraries out there? (Angular, Polymer, React, Ember, Knockout, etc).

At first glance it looks kinda like Knockout.

Re: RethinkDB, SageMath, Andreessen-Horowitz, Basecamp and Open Source Software

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To understand what happened to RethinkDB, you want to contrast it with MongoDB. RethinkDB is amazing software and a real breakthrough. And the audience of deep thinking people who can really leverage the event model is ... limited. Today. MongoDB is no breakthrough, but there are legions of people who just want to plug something together with PHP or Node. Given what they're doing, it works fine. I sincerely hope Reth…

For those not "in the know," what capability is that? Everything I hear implies a focus on ease of use: Easy replication/distribution, JS API, single number type (float64), usefulness when teaching novices, etc.

Re: RethinkDB, SageMath, Andreessen-Horowitz, Basecamp and Open Source Software

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>I think Basecamp itself is mostly closed source, so they may have an advantage in building a business. I think it's the exact opposite. Basecamp is mostly open source. Ruby on Rails is basically extracted from the Basecamp application. They've open sourced even their Trix Editor ( https://github.com/basecamp/trix ). Edit: capitalization

That's very cool that Basecamp is mostly open source. I really appreciate their leadership and the example they set.
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