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HTML 5 IS part of the web, so why shouldn't it? By not having several html 5 functions, you actually disallow access/usage to certain websites.
Apple doesn't provide Internet access -- ISPs do. Nobody forces you to choose Apple's products, there are plenty of others to choose from.
Why we are suing Apple for better HTML5 support in iOS
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Re: Why we are suing Apple for better HTML5 support in iOS
#72Some(Apple) may say that the web/browser ecosystem is mess and it's not worth the investment though. However the restrictions on 3rd party browsers is weird. The application is sandboxed (thus no additional security threats compared to other apps) so I think the argument is political not technical.
Re: Why we are suing Apple for better HTML5 support in iOS
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Currently in the UK there is some controversy about human rights legislation and it being used inappropriately. I think human rights legislation is fundamental. As such I really, really hope no-one ever uses it for something like this, even worse to win a case. It demeans it to use it to save someone having to write a bit extra code to have their commercial application sell better in China.
I understand your point of view and you are probably right. But to my opinion, everyone here knows Apple is blocking HTML 5 somewhat and there is almost nothing we can do about it. PS. General public/buyers don't know and i already changed from iOS, because "add to homescreen" doesn't work as well as on Android
Sure we can! Vote with your wallet and don't buy Apple's products. Or at least write a complaint to one of their support centers..
Re: Why we are suing Apple for better HTML5 support in iOS
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Or at least allow other browsers to compete on the platform.
This!!!! I cannot believe that Apple is allowed (even by EU) to only allow their own browser on App Store. Having a choice is always good. If it was Microsoft, the story would have been completely different today.
Re: Why we are suing Apple for better HTML5 support in iOS
#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
Or at least allow other browsers to compete on the platform.
This!!!! I cannot believe that Apple is allowed (even by EU) to only allow their own browser on App Store. Having a choice is always good. If it was Microsoft, the story would have been completely different today.
Re: Why we are suing Apple for better HTML5 support in iOS
#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
Currently in the UK there is some controversy about human rights legislation and it being used inappropriately. I think human rights legislation is fundamental. As such I really, really hope no-one ever uses it for something like this, even worse to win a case. It demeans it to use it to save someone having to write a bit extra code to have their commercial application sell better in China.
I understand your point of view and you are probably right. But to my opinion, everyone here knows Apple is blocking HTML 5 somewhat and there is almost nothing we can do about it. PS. General public/buyers don't know and i already changed from iOS, because "add to homescreen" doesn't work as well as on Android
Don't buy their devices. Apple is not a government that can coerce you into submission.
Re: Why we are suing Apple for better HTML5 support in iOS
#77Chrome is forced to use Safari under in IOS.
Google want's browser to get the ads revenue.
Suffers the web developer and end user.
Re: Why we are suing Apple for better HTML5 support in iOS
#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
HTML 5 IS part of the web, so why shouldn't it? By not having several html 5 functions, you actually disallow access/usage to certain websites.
Apple doesn't provide Internet access -- ISPs do. Nobody forces you to choose Apple's products, there are plenty of others to choose from.
- broadband
- a browser
Broadband is by ISP's and a browser is in this case by Apple.
And yeah, i don't buy Apple ( obviously). "Add to homescreen" is probably my most used functionality :p .
Re: Why we are suing Apple for better HTML5 support in iOS
#79It is long shot, in my opinion PR stunt. Cited law 'déséquilibre significatif entre les droits et obligations des parties' means 'significant imbalance between the rights and obligations of the parties' I dont even think it is related (it is not even translated in the post)
Definitely a PR stunt, but even so, being sued because you are so behind on standards that it's hurting other businesses certainly puts the spotlight on you.
Remind me which browser engine has 100% es6 support?
Now remind me which half-baked web api exposes local network information to the JavaScript environment.
Oh right. It's HN so apple is the work of the devil and Google is basically Jesus returned.
Re: Why we are suing Apple for better HTML5 support in iOS
#80A few years ago, France passed a Law to protect small companies such as Nexedi against large companies that try to impose unbalanced contracts. [...] Not allowing the publication in Apple's AppStore of web browsers that are not based on Apple's own Webkit raises in our opinion the same issues as if Carrefour (a company similar to Walmart) was not selling any beans but those based on Carrefour's seeds. This may be leg…
Say I ran a couple of farms which grew beans and employed 250 people to work on my farms. What would happen if my main customer Carrefour, one of the biggest supermarkets in France, decided to stop selling my beans and sold only theirs (grown and packed in a foreign country)?
I could try and sell to local shops, but it's unlikely they would buy the same volume as Carrefour. Or I could try and sell to another big supermarket, but they probably already have enough beans from other suppliers.
I'd probably have to let go of a lot of people, or even shut down the business, which would mean a lot of people would be out of work, and most likely relying on the welfare system to support them. So in return for a megacorp boosting their profits slightly, the country has to pay a lot in return to support unemployed people.
(How it applies in this case to Apple I'm not really sure though :P)