I tried an earlier version of a tox client. At that time, there were at least two competing clients that looked the same and did the same things. Is the tox civil war over yet?
TOX – A New Kind of Instant Messaging
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#12Please forgive my ignorance, but it talks a lot about peer-to-peer conversations - how would that work if the peers are behind NATs or Proxies?
Probably leveraging STUN servers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STUN
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#13I tried an earlier version of a tox client. At that time, there were at least two competing clients that looked the same and did the same things. Is the tox civil war over yet?
Looks like no, there's uTox and Toxic - can't get Toxic to run.... so maybe?
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#14I tried an earlier version of a tox client. At that time, there were at least two competing clients that looked the same and did the same things. Is the tox civil war over yet?
But you realize that's like saying "Well, I tried IRC but there are dozens of competing clients that all do the same thing."
The Tox protocol is really the core tool. As long as the protocol is well-defined and maintained, I think developers should be free to make whichever clients that they want.
I used tox ages ago, and I used the Blight client or whatever it was called, and I liked it pretty well.
I think a bigger issue is convincing people to use it in small groups. My whole team is just fine using Mattermost/Hipchat/IRC and the majority of them don't see the need for something like this.
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#15from the FAQ: "How do I add someone to my contacts list? Look in the profile or settings panel of your client to get your Tox ID which should look something like: 56A1ADE4B65B86BCD51CC73E2CD4E542179F47959FE3E0E21B4B0ACDADE51855D34D34D37CB5" Yuk! I see this flaw so many products like this, just about anything p2p, blockchain addresses, commit ids, etc. I think there is zero chance of getting anyone who is not technolo…
ToxMe[1] seems to attempt to solve this issue by creating a public databases of emails and Tox IDs, though this defeats the object of the service being anonymous.
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#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
Signal still relies on Google Play Services, which is an issue for many people (see GitHub issue #127, #1000, #1106, #5450 etc....)
I was mad disappointed by signal. Not only does it require google play services, it also asks for about two dozen privileges on your phone. Not a great look for a privacy oriented app.
Moxie doesn’t consider that kind of privacy important. Governments listening to you is irrelevant, and third party clients are something he actively tries to prohibit.
His position is that it’s better if everyone gets a little safety, than if a few people get full safety.
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#17from the FAQ: "How do I add someone to my contacts list? Look in the profile or settings panel of your client to get your Tox ID which should look something like: 56A1ADE4B65B86BCD51CC73E2CD4E542179F47959FE3E0E21B4B0ACDADE51855D34D34D37CB5" Yuk! I see this flaw so many products like this, just about anything p2p, blockchain addresses, commit ids, etc. I think there is zero chance of getting anyone who is not technolo…
> Why aren't Identicons or QR codes used more?
Nothing stops you from turning that hash into a QR code (afaik Antox does) - but then how do you copy & paste it?
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#18Still no contacts sync?
Put your profile in your Dropbox/Seafile/Whatever Sync Folder and use it with all your clients.
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#19Be warned, Tox claims to protect users from "governments", which is a huge claim.
Yet, it's written in C, it hasn't had a security audit, it does not publish a list of security risks and mitigations, and, regarding its roots in 4chan, see for yourself: https://github.com/irungentoo/toxcore/issues/1186
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#20from the FAQ: "How do I add someone to my contacts list? Look in the profile or settings panel of your client to get your Tox ID which should look something like: 56A1ADE4B65B86BCD51CC73E2CD4E542179F47959FE3E0E21B4B0ACDADE51855D34D34D37CB5" Yuk! I see this flaw so many products like this, just about anything p2p, blockchain addresses, commit ids, etc. I think there is zero chance of getting anyone who is not technolo…
Choose two:
Human-meaningful: Meaningful and memorable (low-entropy) names are provided to the users.
Secure: Any entity in the system can act maliciously, including the majority of the entities or the available computational power.
Decentralized: There is still only one, unique and specific entity to which a name resolves.