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Lawsuit: Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer led illegal purge of male workers

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Re: Lawsuit: Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer led illegal purge of male workers

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Anyone who was unkind to Ellen Pao should really be rethinking themselves about now.

Edit: Hn thread: why is diversity so important?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12576806

Me: if diversity is not important than this lawsuit is a joke and HN should be laughing at this lawsuit.

Re: Lawsuit: Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer led illegal purge of male workers

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Anyone who was unkind to Ellen Pao should really be rethinking themselves about now. Edit: Hn thread: why is diversity so important? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12576806 Me: if diversity is not important than this lawsuit is a joke and HN should be laughing at this lawsuit.

What's this in reference to? I don't really follow the manglement part of tech as close as I probably should.

Re: Lawsuit: Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer led illegal purge of male workers

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post #7

I'm extra-suspicious of this lawsuit because of the opportunistic timing. He was fired in January 2015, more than 1.5 years ago. And yet the lawsuit is only filed now during Verizon's process of closing its acquisition of Yahoo. Whether or not he has a case, his motives now have an antagonistic taint because he no doubt timed this to maximize the PR damage and his chances of getting a quick settlement.

If the article is a good preview of the case, it does seem to be bullshit... The mechanism by which this discrimination supposedly happen was the stack ranking feedback system.

Now I believe stack ranking is stupid and somewhat cruel. But I don't see how it allows more discrimination than other grading systems. The lawsuit also doesn't claim intent and it'd be quite a stretch to assign liability to the CEO for hard-to-prove unintentional side effect.

Re: Lawsuit: Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer led illegal purge of male workers

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Anyone who was unkind to Ellen Pao should really be rethinking themselves about now. Edit: Hn thread: why is diversity so important? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12576806 Me: if diversity is not important than this lawsuit is a joke and HN should be laughing at this lawsuit.

Yes, we know how hacker news feels about women.

Re: Lawsuit: Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer led illegal purge of male workers

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post #10

> “We believe this process allows our team to develop and do their best work. Our performance-review process also allows for high performers to engage in increasingly larger opportunities at our company" Ok so has that worked out well for Yahoo? Clearly it's been enough time by now to do an evaluation of Yahoo practices looking back and say something like: "Yeah thanks to these great management practices we have reco…

I'm more used to "managed out", but same euphemism.

Re: Lawsuit: Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer led illegal purge of male workers

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Anyone who was unkind to Ellen Pao should really be rethinking themselves about now. Edit: Hn thread: why is diversity so important? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12576806 Me: if diversity is not important than this lawsuit is a joke and HN should be laughing at this lawsuit.

Funny you should mention her. I'm 100% sure that it can't be coincidence that the only "really bad CEOs" I keep hearing about on social media are Pao, Meyers and Elizabeth Holmes. But people really don't react kindly to accusations of sexism without proof.

I wonder how unlikely it is that the 90% of male CEOs in high tech are all exemplary.

Re: Lawsuit: Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer led illegal purge of male workers

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Someone could wonder if all this is being triggered by people with an agenda.

To what end? Yahoo is dead and being purchased by Verizon already for an agreed upon price. I guess they could back out, but that seems unlikely.

The threat of impending or active litigation will make Verizon reluctant to close a deal with Yahoo. It's new downside risk for Verizon that they have no desire to take on. Verizon may ask that Yahoo settle the lawsuit before closing the sale.

So, it may be that the lawsuit was timed to put maximum pressure on Yahoo to settle, by creating risk of jeopardizing their sale.

Re: Lawsuit: Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer led illegal purge of male workers

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post #10

> “We believe this process allows our team to develop and do their best work. Our performance-review process also allows for high performers to engage in increasingly larger opportunities at our company" Ok so has that worked out well for Yahoo? Clearly it's been enough time by now to do an evaluation of Yahoo practices looking back and say something like: "Yeah thanks to these great management practices we have reco…

You remind me of that old joke:

When a girl fails in math class, it's "women are bad at math".

When a guy fails, it's "John is really stupid".

Re: Lawsuit: Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer led illegal purge of male workers

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“..less than 20 percent female. Within a year and a half those top managers were more than 80 percent female,”

Even if they were not deliberate about it, they must have talked about how this might be perceived by employees.

As bad as this issue is, I think hiring friend/referral/former colleague, especially en mass is much bigger issue that's rarely talked about because it's not necessarily illegal.

However, I cannot overemphasize how demoralizing it is, especially when they aren't proven to be any better.

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