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Apple Has Removed Dash from the App Store

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Re: Apple Has Removed Dash from the App Store

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Post by brokentone »

dandare wrote: post #456
brokentone wrote: post #273

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This is very true. However, I wonder if we as engineers and the like can provide a better TLDR ratings guide for marketplaces. Kinda like https://tosdr.org/ or a BBB that works... Then we as engineers refuse to build apps for marketplaces below some kind of score. Or does it even matter if the Apple App store is the only marketplace of its kind?

On a related note, as a small startup I am looking for some TOS generator that I - the single developer - could also understand and that will be clear and fair to my users. Any advice?

Excellent question. I know of no answer, but maybe part of the issue of terrible TOS's is lack of resources to write good ones?

Re: Apple Has Removed Dash from the App Store

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Post by andrei_says_ »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #358
andrei_says_ wrote: post #356

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I also see the need for a company to be able to close an account for truly fraudulent activity and not disclose how they caught the misconduct. I'm in no way implying that such activity happened in this case, just that the policy makes sense. An appeal process should be in place though.

They don't need to disclose how they caught it, just what said misconduct was - going "yeah we're closing your account due to misconduct" is like fining someone for no reason. It'd be a violation of human rights if that happened, and in this particular case, it's potentially ruining someone financially.

Not disclosing the details for the reason could prevent a malicious actor to learn and improve their strategies.

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Post by CamperBob2 »

sithadmin wrote: post #266
vbezhenar wrote: post #238

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Human support is supposed to help them. What I found unacceptable is "We are banning you and we won't tell you anything about it". This pattern is extremely common. And extremely frustrating. You can't put one in jail without telling why (and right to defend). In many developed countries you can't even fire a worker without a solid reason. It should be prohibited for companies to halt service someone without providin…

>It should be prohibited for companies to halt service someone without providing a reasonable explanation. By US standards, that would require an absurd level of legislative and/or judicial overreach. I don't think I'd even want to do business in that kind of regulatory climate.

Any sufficiently dominant monopoly is indistinguishable from a government.

So, choose your poison. We can govern them, or they can govern us.

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Post by llwt »

dandare wrote: post #456
brokentone wrote: post #273

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is very true. However, I wonder if we as engineers and the like can provide a better TLDR ratings guide for marketplaces. Kinda like https://tosdr.org/ or a BBB that works... Then we as engineers refuse to build apps for marketplaces below some kind of score. Or does it even matter if the Apple App store is the only marketplace of its kind?

On a related note, as a small startup I am looking for some TOS generator that I - the single developer - could also understand and that will be clear and fair to my users. Any advice?

Iubenda,https://www.iubenda.com/en, has worked well for us.

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Post by ytpete »

gumby wrote: post #302
vbezhenar wrote: post #238

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Human support is supposed to help them. What I found unacceptable is "We are banning you and we won't tell you anything about it". This pattern is extremely common. And extremely frustrating. You can't put one in jail without telling why (and right to defend). In many developed countries you can't even fire a worker without a solid reason. It should be prohibited for companies to halt service someone without providin…

How should the law define "reasonable explanation?" In the US that kind of thing is litigated, which small companies can't afford. Such protections exist for employees, involve lots of lawyers and complexity, and sometimes screw companies and sometimes screw employees and sometimes screw both (though they do also fill an important need). But the economic cost of compliance and management of these rules is quite high,…

A law could be written so it only applies to larger companies. Those companies both have greater leverage/power over consumers and small businesses (making the regulation more important), and have more resources to handle the overhead. I believe some existing regulations in the US already have an annual revenue threshold before they kick in.

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Post by KirinDave »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #460
KirinDave wrote: post #444

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I certainly hope people are moving off that abusive platform. But that doesn't make the relationship a customer relationship.

If I pay you money, I'm your customer. It really is that simple.

So I'm a customer of the DPT when I get a parking ticket?

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Post by WhtWsThtAgn »

tremon wrote: post #392
13of40 wrote: post #309

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Do you mean the kind where my wedding cake costs twice as much because I'm gay or the kind where my car insurance costs twice as much because I'm a serial car wrecker?

What about the case where your car insurance costs twice as much because some of your neighbours are serial car wreckers?

Uhm, that's EXACTLY how insurance policies are calculated..

Local insurance claims gears the local premiums, obviously.

If you live in the city with the worst drivers in the country, your premiums will be high.

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Post by makecheck »

I have to say, the way he has handled this has been fantastic. Within a day, he has published a license migration tool; fully explained the situation; and basically made it as painless as possible for all his users (versions 2 and 3) to start using non-App-Store licensing. I immediately paid $10 to upgrade from 2 to 3.

Re: Apple Has Removed Dash from the App Store

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Post by Sidnicious »

brazzledazzle wrote: post #328
Sidnicious wrote: post #36

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I'd love a to be able to download a single file representing an app, double-click to install it (it doesn't matter where it lives on disk, as long as it's predictable) and then have the system facilitate sandboxing, permissions, and one-click updates and removals. Just like the App Store, but without the App Store.

I believe you can sandbox an app outside of the app store. I believe Office 2016 does this but I'm not 100% sure.

Definitely — Chrome sandboxes its renderer processes, for example. The tools are all there, it would just be cool if something glued them together.
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