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Apple Has Removed Dash from the App Store

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Re: Apple Has Removed Dash from the App Store

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Post by izacus »

koolba wrote: post #5

Having seen the internals of many an application that deals with both "human" and "group" accounts, I'm not surprised that something like this would cause an issue. Unless things are designed from the ground up to support it (which they never are), those types of migrations always have a bunch of edge cases that aren't properly handled. Sure it sucks but the real test of whether Apple gives a rats behind is if they f…

The question is - if it happens, why don't they factcheck the outliers and make sure they don't mess up the developer due to their buggy software.

Re: Apple Has Removed Dash from the App Store

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Post by RIMR »

JustSomeNobody wrote: post #144
rimantas wrote: post #66

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Try contacting Google about anything.

Why do some people always make this kind of "argument "?! Why can't you keep it focused on Apple when it's Apples actions in question? Saying something about some other company does not in any way justify the questionable actions.

Because, we must always speak of Apple and Google in binaries, as everything is always one or the other.

Chocolate and Vanila, Male and Female, Apple and Google. All these things are binary, and are always inversely related to one another.

/s

Re: Apple Has Removed Dash from the App Store

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Post by erikpukinskis »

davesque wrote: post #6

Kinda puts it in perspective how weird it is that companies have so much control over how software is distributed and sold these days. This would never have happened a decade ago.

A decade ago there were many more, much higher hurdles to software distribution.

This developer's woes are nothing compared to the challenges to getting shrink-wrapped software in boxes, getting people to download and install an executable, or god forbid getting a mobile app onto one of the mobile carrier's app stores,

Re: Apple Has Removed Dash from the App Store

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Post by izacus »

redial wrote: post #75
izacus wrote: post #54

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Thing is that laws haven't really followed the state of the market. You hear the excuse commonly here - "They don't have a monopoly so it's ok!". It's not and it's damaging the basic way how free markets do and should function - essentially the integrated, DRMed, lockeddown systems prevent choice which is the basic driving force of market innovation. Right now we're in a state where a few companies (mostly Apple, Ama…

They still sell the iPhone 6S and the SE.

Well, I'm afraid you kinda missed my larger point due to a nitpick into an example. Please replace it with something else appropriate (physical keyboard? USB-C or microUSB port? whatever really) and argue about that :/

Re: Apple Has Removed Dash from the App Store

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Post by RIMR »

zymhan wrote: post #7
davesque wrote: post #6

Kinda puts it in perspective how weird it is that companies have so much control over how software is distributed and sold these days. This would never have happened a decade ago.

We also weren't using as many walled-garden devices and ecosystems a decade ago. There are certainly a lot of issues with the app store model. But using a service like download.com was also rife with issues.

Why can't we just have the equivalent of APT for mobile devices?

Re: Apple Has Removed Dash from the App Store

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Post by brandon272 »

I don't know why anyone develops apps for Apple's walled prisons. I can't imagine the anxiety of having a widely used app in the app store, and knowing that any day, for any reason that you may or may not understand or be privy to, an invisible hand can simply reach in and shut down your account or remove your app with nothing more than a curt message about your non-compliance of their terms.

No thanks!

Re: Apple Has Removed Dash from the App Store

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Post by EGreg »

izacus wrote: post #41

The thing the pisses me of about these cases is this: "I called them again and they said they can’t provide more information." They terminate your account and then they even refuse to tell you why. A basic human thing, a chance to fix the issue, but no. Go f* yourself from Apple and that's it.

Who here has read Franz Kafka?

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Post by mikestew »

maxerickson wrote: post #19
ixtli wrote: post #14

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This is an excellent example: all of those less "walled gardens" ended up a mess of malware and abusive advertising. It's a pretty clear trade-off so far as I can tell.

I get a headache every time I look at an app store. Google Play is full of crap, Apple's app store has plenty of low value apps, the Windows 10 App store sucks, etc, etc, etc. They've improved user security, but the amount of garbage to sift through is terrible.

They've improved user security, but the amount of garbage to sift through is terrible.

From my POV, it's like complaining that the seat belt left a bruise after an automotive collision; IOW, missing the bigger picture. I can sort my own garbage, thanks (and that's not to say that you're not right about the quality in app stores). It's easy, and if I screw it up then I've just got a garbage binary taking up space that is otherwise harmless.

But what I grow increasingly tired of is wondering if bad actors have found new ways to make my life difficult before I install that random app. Download from an app store, the app might be garbage, but at least I can be confident that it won't trash my machine. Servers, my dev machine? Sure, I'm willing to put up with a little more rigamorole for more control, etc. But my phone? I don't want to put up with that crap, vetting everything binary that goes on the box. I just want to tap and download, and if the quality of the app sucks, then fixing that is a long-press away.

Re: Apple Has Removed Dash from the App Store

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Post by eridius »

izacus wrote: post #149
eridius wrote: post #63

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Give up? I wish more apps were sandboxed! If an app can function inside the sandbox (and the overwhelming majority of apps have no problem with being sandboxed) then they absolutely should be. It's a major security benefit.

Except that there are whole swaths of tools and applications that cannot be published at all due to limitations of Sandbox, making your computer limited to a whim of someone on the other side of the world.

Yes they can, they just can't be published on the Mac App Store. But the existence of the MAS does not affect anybody's ability to distribute applications outside of it.

> making your computer limited to a whim of someone on the other side of the world

That's a really weird way to say this. Security is not a whim.

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