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Apple Has Removed Dash from the App Store

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Re: Apple Has Removed Dash from the App Store

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> No standard update mechanism Sparkle is the de-facto standard used by almost all apps. > no standard uninstall mechanism Deleting the .app file would do that for most apps. The config files might be handy to keep around if you re-install (and are inert anyway), else it's pretty easy to remove those too. It would be nice for the OS to be able to track "all files installed by an app" though in case those are installe…

I have known several people who were otherwise pretty competent computer users but would download a DMG, mount it, and run the app from the disk image every time. There's a reason so many downloads include a custom background image with a big "DRAG ME TO THE APPLICATIONS FOLDER" message and an arrow pointed to a /Applications alias. This is such a common use case that I don't understand why Apple didn't just make a "…

>I have known several people who were otherwise pretty competent computer users but would download a DMG, mount it, and run the app from the disk image every time.

Perhaps, but they just need to be told once what to do, and it's dead easy. Having an installer is not that more intuitive -- they'd still have to be shown how to use their first one.

>This is such a common use case that I don't understand why Apple didn't just make a "This disk image is an installer" flag, and automatically prompt the user with "Do you want to install this to the Applications folder?"

Yeah, some apps do it automatically when opened from the DMG.

Re: Apple Has Removed Dash from the App Store

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The thing the pisses me of about these cases is this: "I called them again and they said they can’t provide more information." They terminate your account and then they even refuse to tell you why. A basic human thing, a chance to fix the issue, but no. Go f* yourself from Apple and that's it.

Try contacting Google about anything.

No one was making that comparison.. Being "less shitty that someone else" is not a good thing from any viewpoint..

Re: Apple Has Removed Dash from the App Store

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> That's … a bit drastic. Why should Apple have any say over whose software I choose to install on a device once I have bought it from them? So that they can fully control, secure and curate the experience, which is what I am buying Apple phones for. Well, not really (I'm mostly buying them for the hardware and software combo, which I prefer to Android offerings), but I can appreciate that having a single, sandboxed,…

I don't trust Apple to have my best interests at heart. Out of all the people and organisations in the world, only I have my best interests at heart. Thus, only I can be trusted to control, secure and curate my experience.

>I don't trust Apple to have my best interests at heart. Out of all the people and organisations in the world, only I have my best interests at heart. Thus, only I can be trusted to control, secure and curate my experience.

Yes, but it's not about individual interests. It's about the aggregate interests of users of a platform, the majority of which are average Joes which would otherwise get every malware possible in their phone.

It's kind of like democracy: you may know your best interests yourself, but you only get one vote. So what laws get passed etc, is what the majority decides. Only in this case Apple makes their political platform (iOS) and people vote with their wallets whether they like it or not.

For lone-wolfs that tend to their own personal interests, there's always Android, or even OpenMoko.

Re: Apple Has Removed Dash from the App Store

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I find it ironic that the EU goes after Google for allowing third party stores (Samsung, Amazon, Nvidia, etc) and sideloaded APKs and allows you to build your own APKs for free... ... but Apple just randomly removes apps that people have purchased from the Apple Store (thus stealing their money and their product, doing everything short of uninstalling it, but preventing reinstallation), and the EU stays silent? This…

Thing is that laws haven't really followed the state of the market. You hear the excuse commonly here - "They don't have a monopoly so it's ok!". It's not and it's damaging the basic way how free markets do and should function - essentially the integrated, DRMed, lockeddown systems prevent choice which is the basic driving force of market innovation. Right now we're in a state where a few companies (mostly Apple, Ama…

They still sell the iPhone 6S and the SE.

Re: Apple Has Removed Dash from the App Store

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No one is going after Google for allowing third party stores. Google's trouble in Europe is about: 1. Not paying taxes 2. Using their dominance in Search to promote their other products and services while obscuring competitors 3. Using their dominance in mobile to promote their search and web browser 4. Not allowing third parties to use the Play Store which is the default and dominate store for android devices. Allow…

Not allowing third party stores in the Store is a security feature because they can install APKs that have not passed through Google's security scanner. Google does not prohibit you from installing third party stores. Also, how are they using their dominance for search and browsers to do something? I can install Firefox on Android, I cannot install Firefox on iOS. I can do "Hey, Cortana" if I install Cortana on my An…

No, the EU commission believes that Ireland gave Google an illegal tax break, which is almost self-evidentiary.

There was no post-facto change of the law. It is simply very normal for illegal acts to be discovered after they were perpetrated. Anything else would border on precognition.

Re: Apple Has Removed Dash from the App Store

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I get a headache every time I look at an app store. Google Play is full of crap, Apple's app store has plenty of low value apps, the Windows 10 App store sucks, etc, etc, etc. They've improved user security, but the amount of garbage to sift through is terrible.

I think the following is a good way to do an "App Store": http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ And companies, individuals, non-profits, and others are all allowed to run their own repos, or mirror these.

To be honest I think the chrome extension storefront(?) is pretty decent as well. It's just a matter of curation from the point they've got it at. The reality is that the average user _wants_ a barrier to entry: no one likes what download.com or sourceforge have become.

Re: Apple Has Removed Dash from the App Store

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When a serious action is going to be taken for any reason, that action should be PRECEDED by at least an E-mail to the owner and the path to reverse the action should be clear. The E-mail should not just be a terse message, it should contain a wide variety of resources; something like: "Your account and applications will be disabled in 2 days for . Please select from the following links to attempt to resolve the issue, or call as soon as possible.".

It’s not just apps, either. There is frequently a “less disruptive” option for any major action; for instance, you can “delete” files by starting with the instantly-reversible "chmod 000", and after some period of time you actually go ahead and "rm -Rf". If, in between, a panicked user E-mails you back and says they really needed those files, you undo your "chmod" and instantly fix the issue. Why should anything on the App Store take days?

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