I hope we will see an update here or somewhere soon that provides more information on why it was removed.
Apple Has Removed Dash from the App Store
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Re: Apple Has Removed Dash from the App Store
#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's … a bit drastic. Why should Apple have any say over whose software I choose to install on a device once I have bought it from them? (this is, incidentally, a major reason why I have not bought an Apple device in twenty years)
> That's … a bit drastic. Why should Apple have any say over whose software I choose to install on a device once I have bought it from them? So that they can fully control, secure and curate the experience, which is what I am buying Apple phones for. Well, not really (I'm mostly buying them for the hardware and software combo, which I prefer to Android offerings), but I can appreciate that having a single, sandboxed,…
I don't trust Apple to have my best interests at heart. Out of all the people and organisations in the world, only I have my best interests at heart. Thus, only I can be trusted to control, secure and curate my experience.
Re: Apple Has Removed Dash from the App Store
#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
No standard update mechanism, no standard uninstall mechanism, and going from "I have this .dmg/.zip file in my downloads folder" to "I'm running this app from my Applications folder and don't have any leftovers in my downloads folder" is several non-obvious steps. .app bundles are great, just not a complete solution.
Is draggin an .app file to "Applications" directory such a hard exausting thing to do you'd rather give up the choice of which apps you can use and functionality of said apps (sandbox!)?
Give up? I wish more apps were sandboxed! If an app can function inside the sandbox (and the overwhelming majority of apps have no problem with being sandboxed) then they absolutely should be. It's a major security benefit.
Re: Apple Has Removed Dash from the App Store
#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
No one is going after Google for allowing third party stores. Google's trouble in Europe is about: 1. Not paying taxes 2. Using their dominance in Search to promote their other products and services while obscuring competitors 3. Using their dominance in mobile to promote their search and web browser 4. Not allowing third parties to use the Play Store which is the default and dominate store for android devices. Allow…
Not allowing third party stores in the Store is a security feature because they can install APKs that have not passed through Google's security scanner. Google does not prohibit you from installing third party stores. Also, how are they using their dominance for search and browsers to do something? I can install Firefox on Android, I cannot install Firefox on iOS. I can do "Hey, Cortana" if I install Cortana on my An…
You're setting the bar in a weird place with "bastion of user freedom", which is not a claim I see anyone making.
Re: Apple Has Removed Dash from the App Store
#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
No standard update mechanism, no standard uninstall mechanism, and going from "I have this .dmg/.zip file in my downloads folder" to "I'm running this app from my Applications folder and don't have any leftovers in my downloads folder" is several non-obvious steps. .app bundles are great, just not a complete solution.
> No standard update mechanism Sparkle is the de-facto standard used by almost all apps. > no standard uninstall mechanism Deleting the .app file would do that for most apps. The config files might be handy to keep around if you re-install (and are inert anyway), else it's pretty easy to remove those too. It would be nice for the OS to be able to track "all files installed by an app" though in case those are installe…
I have known several people who were otherwise pretty competent computer users but would download a DMG, mount it, and run the app from the disk image every time.
There's a reason so many downloads include a custom background image with a big "DRAG ME TO THE APPLICATIONS FOLDER" message and an arrow pointed to a /Applications alias. This is such a common use case that I don't understand why Apple didn't just make a "This disk image is an installer" flag, and automatically prompt the user with "Do you want to install this to the Applications folder?"
Re: Apple Has Removed Dash from the App Store
#66The thing the pisses me of about these cases is this: "I called them again and they said they can’t provide more information." They terminate your account and then they even refuse to tell you why. A basic human thing, a chance to fix the issue, but no. Go f* yourself from Apple and that's it.
Try contacting Google about anything.
Re: Apple Has Removed Dash from the App Store
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I simply don't understand this either. Sure Android has the larger market share by units, but Apple has a much higher share of revenue & profit in the market. Which is really the proper measure of market power?
For antitrust purposes, market share.
For antitrust purpose, pricing power is, as I understand, the "gold standard"; various measures of market share (which isn't itself a single measure) are sometimes evidence which supports a conclusion about the likely existence of pricing power, especially when direct evidence one way or another on pricing power is hard to find.
Re: Apple Has Removed Dash from the App Store
#68I wonder if Apple knows how many developers use Dash. They probably don't realize what a high-profile faux pas they're making.
Re: Apple Has Removed Dash from the App Store
#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
From what I understand, Apple doesn't force anyone. It's up to them to use it or not. They can always NOT deliver apps for iOS if they think 30% is too much.
That's … a bit drastic. Why should Apple have any say over whose software I choose to install on a device once I have bought it from them? (this is, incidentally, a major reason why I have not bought an Apple device in twenty years)
>Why should Apple have any say over whose software I choose to install on a device once I have bought it from them?
A valid reason is that you trust them to curate available programs according to values that you agree with. This reduces your risk considerably. (Consider the state of Windows executables in the bad old days.)
Problems arise when a) you don't agree with their values, b) they don't actually act on their values. A lot of people are content to make the uninformed choice to trust Apple, and will continue to do so until their is an obviously better alternative.
Re: Apple Has Removed Dash from the App Store
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In 20 years? That doesn't make any sense. Until iOS, Apple had no say in what you installed on your device. And even on desktop, the App Store is completely optional.
I wrote 'a major reason,' not 'the major reason,' for a reason:-) The major reason is that I got into Linux before the Mac I bought in 1996 got too old to use. I've not looked back.
So basically, you haven't bought an Apple product in 20 years for reasons that really have nothing at all to do with this discussion, and that aren't even indicative of anything wrong on Apple's part, merely that you like Linux (although many people seem to think that Apple's laptops are the best laptops to use even for Windows and Linux, so it's surprising to me that you'd consider this a reason to avoid Apple's hardware, even if you don't use their software).