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> Does turning them off prevent them from catching on fire? Doubtful. Isn't it the Li-ion batteries that are combusting, ie. chemical reaction?
They might be safe without load on them. Who knows? Maybe Samsung does. I'm imagining cargo ships / stores with stacks of these things though. Wonder if one goes boom, would that spread and start a fire?
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Probably lithium polymer but yeah: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yD_Eal1_5NI My RC aircraft group has a 55 gallon drum with salt water at our flying field. RC aircraft pretty much exclusively use lithium polymer packs, sometimes 2 the size of bricks in larger models / big helis. If a lipo starts smoking, you chuck it in the salt water and it shorts it out + cools it down. The reaction when they short internally (such…
I thought LiFePO4 was common in RC circles? Or only for ground vehicles, or already outdated knowledge?
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"I think the way Samsung handled the whole situation was above and beyond how other companies may have responded." LOL, you mean like follow the proper legal process for filing a recall in the US? Yeah... they did none of that. What exactly was "above and beyond"?? Seriously, I'm not even joking, I'm genuinely curious as from my perspective they did the absolute bare minimum, and took an insane amount of time to even…
I define above and beyond as recalling all of their defective product with no questions asked, offering a substitute while they fix the problem, and then finally replacing the phones to anyone who wants to try them again. If this is a poor company response please let me know who has done better as I would too like to do business with them instead. Clearly my experiences with companies have been drastically different…
I think you're forgetting your forum. HN has a very very pro-Apple bias. Anything good for Apple or bad for Apples competitors will get a disproportionate amount of attention here.
I recently flew to Munich/Prague with Air Canada and Lufthansa - the flight attendants said to both not charge a Samsung Note 7 and that they require them to actually also be turned off.
Does turning them off prevent them from catching on fire? What is the actual problem described in technical terms, really?
Nevertheless I would be freaking out if that happened mid flight.
When we flew with Lufthansa a few weeks ago they expressly forbade the use of the Galaxy Note 7. I have never heard something like that - its a real problem for Samsung.
What happens if someone decides to check it in their luggage and it catches fire there. Are there measures to deal with fires in the cargo hold?
Still, though, airlines would rather avoid the problem entirely. Airline safety usually relies on defense-in-depth - you fix the root cause, and then you fix anything else that would've stopped the problem, because things go wrong in a cramped cylinder at 30,000 feet. For example, a fast-moving fire could easily burn through the hydraulics or electronics that would trigger the fire suppression system before it has a chance to go off.
Time to short Samsung.