Not OK, Google

Post by jacquesm » Wed, Oct 05, 2016, 4:44 PM UTC

internaut wrote: post #162

pyrophane wrote: post #76

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Sadly, I think you are right. I'm not sure what it would take to get more people to really care about privacy when they can have convenience instead. The Snowden leaks didn't do it in the US, even though it showed a government that was willing to break the rule of law to collect data on its citizens.

It's simple, regular people are going to get picked off by hackers, lawyers and other predators until much like the steadily rising smog around cities in the industrial revolution, we realize 'oh shit, this is an actual problem because the wind doesn't always blow this shit away'. Meanwhile actual geeks and hackers will be fine, because we'll have used our intuitions about these things to choose privacy conscious alt…

Post by theandrewbailey » Wed, Oct 05, 2016, 4:45 PM UTC

shaftway wrote: post #157

ubercore wrote: post #70

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Sure, and to illustrate your point, I have an email very similar to someone else's. I very frequently get their emails (invoices, church events, travel itineraries, purchase receipts). Google thinks they're _my_ trips, and updates me about flight times. I think this example serves both our points. To your point, it's totally leaked this other person's info into my "google world" because I'm on gmail. On the other han…

This is often useful even if you're not the flier. When I'm picking someone up it lets me know when their flight was delayed, and when I'm traveling it lets my wife know when I'm available.

Post by Ph0X » Wed, Oct 05, 2016, 4:45 PM UTC

Eupolemos wrote: post #60

ubercore wrote: post #11

Google Now has done the same for me, told me how long it will take to get to a bar I frequent. My reaction was quite exactly "Oh that's neat, thanks!" and I went and had a great burger that night. Totally OK for me Google. I respect that people have different privacy thresholds, but I think the fact that it's different for everyone is being lost in articles like this.

I fear you will be unable to recognize when that burger was your choice and when it was a reaction. You probably won't notice. And that is harmless. I also fear you will be unable to notice in which areas of life and information the distinction between choice and reaction is harmless and which it isn't. Of course, I'm not talking about "You" you, but just people. Me as well. I feel we are widening the field of uncons…

Post by falcolas » Wed, Oct 05, 2016, 4:46 PM UTC

throwanem wrote: post #118

falcolas wrote: post #81

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Siri recordings are uploaded to the cloud for transcription, and reviewed by third parties to improve transcription and the AI. It also can arbitrarily decide to query search engines to answer questions. So, better, but nowhere near "on the device only".

> reviewed by third parties to improve transcription and the AI Cite?

Post by dragonwriter » Wed, Oct 05, 2016, 4:47 PM UTC

tjl wrote: post #129

darklajid wrote: post #79

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Has Star Trek even a currency? It always feels like a socialist/communist thing to me. You cannot compare the world's biggest seller of advertisement space with the ST universe. The motivation's aren't aligned: Google/Alphabet want to make sales based on my information. I agree that I found these oh so clever AI fantasies interesting in my youth, still do to a degree. But I always pictured the data being held inacces…

In the original show there wasn't a currency but in order to have aliens who exhibit avarice and the worst part of capitalism they had to include a currency (latinum, I think it was called).