Melinda Gates Has a New Mission: Women in Tech • Hacker News Board

Re: Melinda Gates Has a New Mission: Women in Tech

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Post by voidr » Sun, Oct 02, 2016, 10:27 AM UTC

I like the idea that she wants to look at data, however, I'm not convinced that she'll look at right data and draw the right conclusions.

In my CS class, the women had better grades in general, I was barely passing.

Looking at the data you would expect the high performing women to have amazing careers while I'm drowning in my sorrow on where it went wrong.

Turns out: the opposite happened.

They had better grades, what they didn't have though was: love for the craft. Their goal was to get good grades, they didn't have any love for it.

I enjoyed coding, for them, it was work, for me it was fun. Maybe this is a social construct or maybe it's biological, either way, I feel that who care about this should shift their perspective. If you shut down all programming jobs, I will still code in my spare time, can you say the same thing about people who only care about coding because it makes a lot of money?

Re: Melinda Gates Has a New Mission: Women in Tech

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Post by mzw_mzw » Mon, Oct 03, 2016, 9:17 PM UTC

Tan__ wrote: post #39

kukac wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Okay, that's actually great to know, but I am yet to see feminists fighting to get more females into other male-dominated jobs that are not as well-paid as software engineering.

Have you tried looking? There are plenty of programs encouraging women to go into non-traditional jobs.

Such as? What are these programs encouraging women to become garbage collectors or construction workers or miners, and on the same scale as the endlessly hyped women-in-tech initiatives?

Re: Melinda Gates Has a New Mission: Women in Tech

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Post by mzw_mzw » Mon, Oct 03, 2016, 9:24 PM UTC

DanBC wrote: post #10

fjjrxcbdhx wrote: post #3

Why not more female sanitation workers or more male elementary school teachers? What makes the gender demographics of building websites so much more important than all these other imbalanced fields?

Programmes to get more women into sanitation work, or men into teaching, already exist and have already been posted to HN. Learn to search.

And do they get even one one-hundredth of the publicity that the tech programs do? And is anyone who even dares to quibble with their methodology or approach subjected to media hate campaigns, as with the tech programs?

Re: Melinda Gates Has a New Mission: Women in Tech

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Post by Tan__ » Tue, Oct 04, 2016, 5:25 PM UTC

mzw_mzw wrote: post #82

Tan__ wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you tried looking? There are plenty of programs encouraging women to go into non-traditional jobs.

Such as? What are these programs encouraging women to become garbage collectors or construction workers or miners, and on the same scale as the endlessly hyped women-in-tech initiatives?

http://www.womenintoconstruction.org/whoweare

http://www.hays.co.uk/job/construction-property-jobs/insight...

https://www.dol.gov/wb/factsheets/nontra2008.htm

http://www.new-nyc.org/

http://www.learnhowtobecome.org/underrepresented-careers-for...