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I'm choosing euthanasia etd 1pm. I have no last words.

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#11

I find this post along with the comments unsettling, but I am unable to articulate why. (It is not the choice, nor the announcement of the choice. There is something about the dynamic here that doesn't sit right with me. Apologies for my failure to elaborate.) I wish him the best and deeply appreciate his sharing part of his journey.

I agree, the comments are unsettling, they seem to disregard or not take serious Peter's wishes and plans. As the practice of euthanasia becomes more common place perhaps it will get easier to discuss but, like you, I'm having a hard time putting into words my thoughts on this....

Re: I'm choosing euthanasia etd 1pm. I have no last words.

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post #6

I find this post along with the comments unsettling, but I am unable to articulate why. (It is not the choice, nor the announcement of the choice. There is something about the dynamic here that doesn't sit right with me. Apologies for my failure to elaborate.) I wish him the best and deeply appreciate his sharing part of his journey.

Would it be the inevitability of death that disturbs you?

What unsettles me is cancer. I did my PhD in cancer research, lost relatives to it and discovered how bad it is. I would do anything to prevent getting it, but I know there's no way. May his family and friends find peace.

Re: I'm choosing euthanasia etd 1pm. I have no last words.

#14

I find this post along with the comments unsettling, but I am unable to articulate why. (It is not the choice, nor the announcement of the choice. There is something about the dynamic here that doesn't sit right with me. Apologies for my failure to elaborate.) I wish him the best and deeply appreciate his sharing part of his journey.

I agree, the comments are unsettling, they seem to disregard or not take serious Peter's wishes and plans. As the practice of euthanasia becomes more common place perhaps it will get easier to discuss but, like you, I'm having a hard time putting into words my thoughts on this....

People deal with death a lot of different ways. If it was easy, there wouldn't be so many rituals around it.

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#16

I find this post along with the comments unsettling, but I am unable to articulate why. (It is not the choice, nor the announcement of the choice. There is something about the dynamic here that doesn't sit right with me. Apologies for my failure to elaborate.) I wish him the best and deeply appreciate his sharing part of his journey.

If it matters to you, I'd be interested to hear any elaboration you might choose to undertake.

Re: I'm choosing euthanasia etd 1pm. I have no last words.

#17
post #6

I find this post along with the comments unsettling, but I am unable to articulate why. (It is not the choice, nor the announcement of the choice. There is something about the dynamic here that doesn't sit right with me. Apologies for my failure to elaborate.) I wish him the best and deeply appreciate his sharing part of his journey.

Would it be the inevitability of death that disturbs you?

Nyah. I'm 51 years old and buried my parents. Death is real and probably closer than I imagine.

Perhaps it's the productization of death?

I received this news as a retweet in my Twitter feed. Next to it was a bit.ly link about Configuration Management tools, the announcement of a speaker at a conference, and a famous quote from Einstein.

Right now on HN it's #4. Next to it is a blog post about tools and frameworks and a post about a PostgreSQL extension. The response to Pieter's tweet is lengthy and very kind. It would be a privilege to hear those thoughts in my own life before I leave. But the thoughts will still keep coming, probably long after he's gone.

I met a nice lady three years ago. She was a "social media consultant" in the local area, which basically consisted of teaching small business owners how to navigate the web. We met for lunch several times when I was in town.

Soon, though, she learned she had stage 4 lung cancer. I had lunch with her one more time. I'll never forget how weary she looked.

She held on for almost a year, then she passed.

For many weeks after that, however, Facebook was full of her many friends offering their condolences. Facebook would remind me that she liked certain things as a way to sell me on things. Every so often people would think of her and post on her wall. These posts appeared in my feed.

Last week I finally had to unfriend her. She was dead. But it didn't stop the computerized social network that Facebook to stop trying to monetize as much of her presence as they could. Even if somebody had set her account to deceased, Facebook will always own some part of her existence.

It feels like turning a tender, emotional, precious thing into a bucket of bits. I find that repugnant.

Re: I'm choosing euthanasia etd 1pm. I have no last words.

#19

I find this post along with the comments unsettling, but I am unable to articulate why. (It is not the choice, nor the announcement of the choice. There is something about the dynamic here that doesn't sit right with me. Apologies for my failure to elaborate.) I wish him the best and deeply appreciate his sharing part of his journey.

I agree, the comments are unsettling, they seem to disregard or not take serious Peter's wishes and plans. As the practice of euthanasia becomes more common place perhaps it will get easier to discuss but, like you, I'm having a hard time putting into words my thoughts on this....

Death has always been something that came to you — naturally or via some agency — and not the other way around; and only rarely is its time known beforehand (i.e., executions). It is a relatively modern phenomenon that we actively seek death in these cases, and decide when to go whilst being a part of the community around you. Sure there are the customs of elderly tribesmen wondering off into the wilderness to die, but that too abstracts death away into something that happens to you, not something you actively invite.

Society isn't used to this notion, and we don't really have any handholds to fall back to. Do you mourn with the person while he is still alive? Go on as if nothing really changed? Celebrate life with them while you still can? Euthanasia is becoming widely accepted; at least at the abstract levels of law and medicine, so we'll probably figure it out eventually.

Perhaps the Hallmarks of the world can introduce a nice line of cards for the occasion?

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