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From Syria to Sweden – 200 voices on escaping the war

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Re: From Syria to Sweden – 200 voices on escaping the war

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Post by croon »

staticelf wrote: post #4

I am a Swede and can say that SVT is not a trustworthy source of news. Pretty much no swedish media is. SVT is a bit like Fox news but for the left and we have other news groups in Sweden that are like Fox news for the right. That is the state of the Swedish media. SOURCE: 52% voted for the greens (left) and pretty much the overwhelming majority of what's left voted red (left) in a recent scientific poll. http://jmg.…

That is a gross mischaracterization.

I would describe it simply as a smaller BBC, with all that entails. It's more like NPR than FOX in regards to bias. And that is an immense difference.

Edit: As you deleted your comment, I'll edit here instead.

I know the party affiliations, and why I made a comparison to a left biased state sponsored radio network. I still strongly disagree with your comparison to FOX News. It's a huge difference between being biased and still do largely good reporting, and being biased and straight up lying daily.

Party affiliation does not inherently imply doctored news reporting or necessarily even biased reporting. I'm not disagreeing about a bias. I'm saying your comparison is way off on the magnitude.

Re: From Syria to Sweden – 200 voices on escaping the war

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Post by kartan »

staticelf wrote: post #4

I am a Swede and can say that SVT is not a trustworthy source of news. Pretty much no swedish media is. SVT is a bit like Fox news but for the left and we have other news groups in Sweden that are like Fox news for the right. That is the state of the Swedish media. SOURCE: 52% voted for the greens (left) and pretty much the overwhelming majority of what's left voted red (left) in a recent scientific poll. http://jmg.…

"Ad hominem (Latin for "to the man" or "to the person"), short for argumentum ad hominem, is a logical fallacy in which an argument is rebutted by attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument, or persons associated with the argument, rather than attacking the substance of the argument itself." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

Re: From Syria to Sweden – 200 voices on escaping the war

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Post by kbart »

bobowzki wrote: post #3
redsummer wrote: post #2

The Swedish press and government will publish anything positive about Syrians in Sweden. But they will not publish anything about the massive increase in rapes.

references?

"On Monday, police in the Swedish city of Östersund advised women not to go outdoors alone following a string of public assaults and sex attacks in the past three weeks"[1]. Crime increase is huge, just google for independent news sources that were not silenced by governments.

http://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/world-economy/cologne...

Re: From Syria to Sweden – 200 voices on escaping the war

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Post by pawadu »

d33 wrote: post #7

Why do refugees need to go to as far as Sweden to escape war? Why wouldn't they stop at the nearest EU country, or even closer to Syria?

They actually explain this in some stories. For example, some people had friends and relatives in Sweden. Some choose it because Swedens track record in human rights.

Also, the nearest EU countries were Turkey and Greece then Italy and Hungary who don't seem to accept refugees at this point.

Re: From Syria to Sweden – 200 voices on escaping the war

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Post by Ralfp »

staticelf wrote: post #4

I am a Swede and can say that SVT is not a trustworthy source of news. Pretty much no swedish media is. SVT is a bit like Fox news but for the left and we have other news groups in Sweden that are like Fox news for the right. That is the state of the Swedish media. SOURCE: 52% voted for the greens (left) and pretty much the overwhelming majority of what's left voted red (left) in a recent scientific poll. http://jmg.…

Thats standard in immigration discourse these days, with one side drumming the narrative that immigration enriches our societies and helps our economies with other going that they are criminals and uneducated slackers looking to leech on social programmes.

Re: From Syria to Sweden – 200 voices on escaping the war

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Post by return0 »

pawadu wrote: post #15
d33 wrote: post #7

Why do refugees need to go to as far as Sweden to escape war? Why wouldn't they stop at the nearest EU country, or even closer to Syria?

They actually explain this in some stories. For example, some people had friends and relatives in Sweden. Some choose it because Swedens track record in human rights. Also, the nearest EU countries were Turkey and Greece then Italy and Hungary who don't seem to accept refugees at this point.

Greece and italy accept and house refugees. They just don't want to stay here.

Re: From Syria to Sweden – 200 voices on escaping the war

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Post by [deleted] »

pawadu wrote: post #15
d33 wrote: post #7

Why do refugees need to go to as far as Sweden to escape war? Why wouldn't they stop at the nearest EU country, or even closer to Syria?

They actually explain this in some stories. For example, some people had friends and relatives in Sweden. Some choose it because Swedens track record in human rights. Also, the nearest EU countries were Turkey and Greece then Italy and Hungary who don't seem to accept refugees at this point.

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Re: From Syria to Sweden – 200 voices on escaping the war

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Post by [deleted] »

croon wrote: post #11
staticelf wrote: post #4

I am a Swede and can say that SVT is not a trustworthy source of news. Pretty much no swedish media is. SVT is a bit like Fox news but for the left and we have other news groups in Sweden that are like Fox news for the right. That is the state of the Swedish media. SOURCE: 52% voted for the greens (left) and pretty much the overwhelming majority of what's left voted red (left) in a recent scientific poll. http://jmg.…

That is a gross mischaracterization. I would describe it simply as a smaller BBC, with all that entails. It's more like NPR than FOX in regards to bias. And that is an immense difference. Edit: As you deleted your comment, I'll edit here instead. I know the party affiliations, and why I made a comparison to a left biased state sponsored radio network. I still strongly disagree with your comparison to FOX News. It's a…

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Re: From Syria to Sweden – 200 voices on escaping the war

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Post by sremani »

croon wrote: post #11
staticelf wrote: post #4

I am a Swede and can say that SVT is not a trustworthy source of news. Pretty much no swedish media is. SVT is a bit like Fox news but for the left and we have other news groups in Sweden that are like Fox news for the right. That is the state of the Swedish media. SOURCE: 52% voted for the greens (left) and pretty much the overwhelming majority of what's left voted red (left) in a recent scientific poll. http://jmg.…

That is a gross mischaracterization. I would describe it simply as a smaller BBC, with all that entails. It's more like NPR than FOX in regards to bias. And that is an immense difference. Edit: As you deleted your comment, I'll edit here instead. I know the party affiliations, and why I made a comparison to a left biased state sponsored radio network. I still strongly disagree with your comparison to FOX News. It's a…

NPR is polite cousin of MSNBC, but the politics and biases are not that different.
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