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Re: Stripe in Japan

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Isn't Japan mostly cash-based? Seems like an interesting location to expand to.

I don't even have a credit card (I live in Japan). Stuff I buy online I pay at the convenience store or on delivery in cash, everything else I pay in cash or using my commuter pass (RFID).

Re: Stripe in Japan

#42
post #24

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what's a settlement? the vendor receiving the payment?

Yes. In credit card world it goes auth, capture, settlement. Auth happens within those few seconds when you slide your card. Capture tends to happen at the end of the business day when the "final" total is known and charged against your card. Settlement is when everything has cleared and merchants get their money.

I am very interested in how the whole system works together. Any chance you happen know of any books or guides on the subject?

Re: Stripe in Japan

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post #40
post #11

Isn't Japan mostly cash-based? Seems like an interesting location to expand to.

Japan is mostly cash-based for face-to-face transactions. Online, users are extremely comfortable paying electronically. You have to remember that paying via mobile was a thing here several years before the rest of the world, so people have had longer to acclimatize. As a reference point, Japan spent around $8B via mobile phones in 2006 (i.e. before the iphone launched).

Best i recall a large part about this was that the carriers had their own banks that could issue credit cards that was linked to the phone.

Re: Stripe in Japan

#44
post #21

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There's not though. Each EU member state is a sovereign country and they each have their own laws regarding things like trans border payments. There's not even a single currency.

Estonia, Greece and Cyprus use the Euro, but unlike the other EU Euro countries aren't available on Stripe. I haven't worked in finance, but as I understand it, the regulations are supposed to allow cross border businesses to operate. That's why the City of London banks area worried about leaving the EU and losing that right. The Eurozone especially has regulations to remove barriers to cross border payments. https:/…

The EU makes it easier for more businesses to operate across borders, but banks and payment companies are still highly regulated on a per-country basis, with few real standards for having regulators talk to each other.

The main downside of not being in the EU is that it'd be harder for the banks' clients to move money to the EU, likely trigger additional taxes, etc.

Re: Stripe in Japan

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post #41
post #11

Isn't Japan mostly cash-based? Seems like an interesting location to expand to.

I don't even have a credit card (I live in Japan). Stuff I buy online I pay at the convenience store or on delivery in cash, everything else I pay in cash or using my commuter pass (RFID).

You may live like this but this is uncommon. They are issuing cards very aggressively recently. Most of my friends have a credit card and they use it often.

Re: Stripe in Japan

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post #18
post #11

Isn't Japan mostly cash-based? Seems like an interesting location to expand to.

Yes it's mostly cash and there are many places (like restaurants) where they ONLY accept cash, too. So you always need to have some cash on you.

I am afraid that isn't true. At least not in big cities. Almost all shops and chain restaurants accept all suite of cards. Credit ones, prepaid, debit ones rarely because they don't issue them often. People are changing.

Re: Stripe in Japan

#49
I evaluated stripe for a French company here in Europe, having heard lots of good things about them, and I have to say that while the integration was top notch, they were vastly inferior to local bank competitors in two areas : no support whatsoever for 3D secure (once you've started using it, you never want to go back), and way higher pricing. National banks (CIC, Caisse d'Epargne) both offered % way, way lower than stripe (under 0.5% per transaction, stripe being almost 3* that for European card and 6* that for non European card).

Even including the small monthly fee and the harder / higher cost integration, it made no sense to go with them.

Was a bit surprised, mostly by the good terms that could be obtained in locally national banks once you sit with someone. Company I was representing wasn't very large (12 employees). I wonder what others here have experienced? Is it a special scenario that never happens, is it usual?

Re: Stripe in Japan

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post #27

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Braintree doesn't ignore the EU like Stripe. Use Braintree.

I am using Braintree but the more options the better.

While I agree in general, for the moment the fact is that Stripe doesn't care about our business, while others do. I am emphasizing this because Stripe seems to get a lot of goodwill here on HN, in spite of them basically ignoring large parts of the world. If you point that out, people will jump to excuses and explanations (laws are complicated, etc) — which is fine, but facts are facts: as it is now, Stripe doesn't want my business.
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