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A decent salary + big performance bonus or a high salary and no bonus? Even at the end of the year, if they were equal it is my thought that a decent salary + large bonus would seem more rewarding, psychologically. Thoughts?
So I think a good portion of us agree that this article is somewhat bullshit, and the consensus is "pay me what I am worth, dammit!". Fair enough, but what would you rather and which would motivate you more? A decent salary + big performance bonus or a high salary and no bonus? Even at the end of the year, if they were equal it is my thought that a decent salary + large bonus would seem more rewarding, psychologicall…
Really, who would prefer (X-10)+p*(10) where p lies between 0 and 1 over X?
In my recent ploy to get downvoted, I'll sum up my view of this: Fuck you, pay me.
In my recent ploy to get downvoted, I'll sum up my view of this: Fuck you, pay me.
In my recent ploy to get you upvoted, I'll point out that some of the most brilliant programmers I know break the generalization in the article and follow this philosophy. They work as consultants making 5x the salary of their full-time counterparts, with precisely your mentality: I don't care if you respect me or honor me with social motivation or whatever. This is a business transaction, and I'll crank out amazing…
It's demeaning because what you're really saying is "I shouldn't have to pay for creative work, since money is for important people like me."
"They don’t care about money, actually, unless you’re screwing up on the other things. If you start to hear complaints about salaries where you never heard them before, that’s usually a sign that people aren’t really loving their job. If potential new hires just won’t back down on their demands for outlandish salaries, you’re probably dealing with a case of people who are thinking, “Well, if it’s going to have to suck to go to work, at least I should be getting paid well.”
That doesn’t mean you can underpay people, because they do care about justice, and they will get infuriated if they find out that different people are getting different salaries for the same work, or that everyone in your shop is making 20% less than an otherwise identical shop down the road, and suddenly money will be a big issue. You do have to pay competitively, but all said, of all the things that programmers look at in deciding where to work, as long as the salaries are basically fair, they will be surprisingly low on their list of considerations, and offering high salaries is a surprisingly ineffective tool in overcoming problems like the fact that programmers get 15" monitors and salespeople yell at them all the time and the job involves making nuclear weapons out of baby seals."
http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/FieldGuidetoDeveloper...
In my recent ploy to get downvoted, I'll sum up my view of this: Fuck you, pay me.
In my recent ploy to get you upvoted, I'll point out that some of the most brilliant programmers I know break the generalization in the article and follow this philosophy. They work as consultants making 5x the salary of their full-time counterparts, with precisely your mentality: I don't care if you respect me or honor me with social motivation or whatever. This is a business transaction, and I'll crank out amazing…
(Unfortunately from what I can tell, the studies on how different kinds of motivation [intrinsic, tangible extrinsic, social, etc.] relate are all over the map, and appear to depend sensitively on the specific kind of task and setting.)
Earlier quoted context omitted.
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