Free Lossless Image Format Publications

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Post by mdf » Mon, Oct 03, 2016, 11:01 AM UTC

Free Lossless Image Format Publications
flif.info

Re: Free Lossless Image Format Publications

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Post by d33 » Mon, Oct 03, 2016, 12:09 PM UTC

Just a note that the project has undergone fuzzing by author: https://github.com/FLIF-hub/FLIF/issues/57

Re: Free Lossless Image Format Publications

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Post by zylonbane » Mon, Oct 03, 2016, 12:27 PM UTC

So how is this project even surviving at all considering FFmpeg's FFV1 beats it completely in terms of performance, format support and efficiency?

Re: Free Lossless Image Format Publications

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Post by 1ris » Mon, Oct 03, 2016, 12:50 PM UTC

zylonbane wrote: post #3

So how is this project even surviving at all considering FFmpeg's FFV1 beats it completely in terms of performance, format support and efficiency?

Is it? That would be strange because FLIF was developed with FFV1 as a inspiration.

Re: Free Lossless Image Format Publications

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Post by FlyingAvatar » Mon, Oct 03, 2016, 12:54 PM UTC

zylonbane wrote: post #3

So how is this project even surviving at all considering FFmpeg's FFV1 beats it completely in terms of performance, format support and efficiency?

Do you have a reference to anyone comparing the formats?

Also, since FFV1 is a video codec, a static image container would need to be defined in order for it to be useful in the same scenarios as FLIF.

Re: Free Lossless Image Format Publications

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Post by audunw » Mon, Oct 03, 2016, 12:55 PM UTC

zylonbane wrote: post #3

So how is this project even surviving at all considering FFmpeg's FFV1 beats it completely in terms of performance, format support and efficiency?

Source? I can't find any comparisons online. FLIF is inspired by FFV1, so how can it be worse?

Re: Free Lossless Image Format Publications

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Post by mdf » Mon, Oct 03, 2016, 1:23 PM UTC

Apparently the WIP warning was also removed from the site lately[1]. Can we infer that the format is being finalized?

[1] https://github.com/FLIF-hub/FLIF-hub.github.io/commit/2b9c81...

Re: Free Lossless Image Format Publications

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Post by d33 » Mon, Oct 03, 2016, 1:35 PM UTC

d33 wrote: post #2

Just a note that the project has undergone fuzzing by author: https://github.com/FLIF-hub/FLIF/issues/57

...though now that I ran fuzzer again, the results are pretty disappointing:

https://github.com/FLIF-hub/FLIF/issues/304

Re: Free Lossless Image Format Publications

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Post by mark-r » Mon, Oct 03, 2016, 2:50 PM UTC

I'd be curious to see what the result would be if you took the best format for each individual image and added them together; would it be a significant difference over FLIF by itself?

The choice of GPLv3 licensing is unfortunate, since it will limit native browser support.

Re: Free Lossless Image Format Publications

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Post by driax » Mon, Oct 03, 2016, 3:15 PM UTC

mark-r wrote: post #9

I'd be curious to see what the result would be if you took the best format for each individual image and added them together; would it be a significant difference over FLIF by itself? The choice of GPLv3 licensing is unfortunate, since it will limit native browser support.

The decoder is under the Apache license. But yes otherwise GPLv3+