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Sam Altman’s Manifest Destiny

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Re: Sam Altman’s Manifest Destiny

#101

The brilliance of YCombinator, IMO, is HackerNews. It's turned YC into a self-perpetuating machine by getting smart people to congregate and talk about news YC itself partially generates. I heard about YC, PG, and sama all through this outlet.

I agree. HN and pg's old essays were a gem in the times were little other startup resources were out there.

Re: Sam Altman’s Manifest Destiny

#102
post #79

Thinking democracy's success is tied to economic growth is a pretty dim worldview. I hope he's wrong about that.

If "Economic growth" leads to ever increasing inequality, I don't think society will be more democratic because of it.

An interesting paradox!

Re: Sam Altman’s Manifest Destiny

#103

> two tech billionaires have gone so far as to secretly engage scientists to work on breaking us out of the simulation I'm very curious who these two billionaires are and what exactly are they planning to do regarding this likely hopeless project.

One of them is obviously Musk. I could guess on the other, but it would only be based on the "wildness" of the other billionaire's imagination.

Don't think so. See around 17:10 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqEo107j-uw

Re: Sam Altman’s Manifest Destiny

#104

Thinking democracy's success is tied to economic growth is a pretty dim worldview. I hope he's wrong about that.

The logic behind it, I think game theory, is simple and does not just apply to democracy but any system of corporate or state government.

It goes like this:

Suppose there exist 2 parties to a conflict of interest. I want Z, but you also want Z, and this is a rival good, only one of us can have it at one time.

Then it is possible for 1 party to play ball with the other party, but IFF there is a different, separate conflict of interest where the trade can be reversed.

So I win A, but only if I allow you to win B. 'the next time'

This logic only can work if we allow each other to be winners.

Suppose our economic incentive was to 'defect' in game theory parlance, and defect always. Why would this be so?

Perhaps because we're in a zero sum game instead of a positive sum game. Perhaps I must win or I will die, in which case my non-cooperation with you is non-negotiable.

"I want Z, but you also want Z, and this is a rival good, only one of us can have it at one time."

sama, and Thiel, believe technology solves this by turning a potential rival good into non-rival goods. Or put more simply; if everybody can have stuff they are happy.

There can be exceptions to this logic, like a mother choosing her child's survival over her own in a pregnancy gone wrong. But in a world without growth, without those potential negotiations 'violence' becomes selected for.

The important realization is not the trivial 'more stuff makes people happy'. It does, but the real reason why growth is a big deal is that in the long run it selects for outcomes which don't lead to deadlock leading to violence.

Where I part company with Sam, is the belief that democracy is worth saving. It is worth saving representation, each entity's self interest in a system must be recognized yes, but not democracy. Ironically equal voting must lead to unequal outcomes. Right from the initial premise it does not hold up against physical reality. Like genetics, circumstance, and all of history. There are other systems in G-space that have the potential to be much better at governing. That includes systems in which people would feel much more represented than they do in our current system. Equality of votes is like a sledgehammer instead of a scalpel. I mean even the NSDAP had policies on the environment and health most people agree with in the present. What does that say about our ability to select?

tldr; The relationship is close to axiomatic in game theory and democracy when looked at in the cold light of day is a pretty dim worldview to start with.

Re: Sam Altman’s Manifest Destiny

#105

I continue to be impressed by the quality of The New Yorker's reporting. This is so far above and beyond most media coverage about Altman and YC.

Golden quote: "Launching a startup in 2016 is akin to assembling an alt-rock band in 1996 or protesting the Vietnam War in 1971—an act of youthful rebellion gone conformist."

Anyone who was aware of startups before 2010 already knew this.

Re: Sam Altman’s Manifest Destiny

#106
post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If "Economic growth" leads to ever increasing inequality, I don't think society will be more democratic because of it.

An interesting paradox!

It is solved because the inequality has to be bounded inequality. You can visualize it as the stretching of an elastic band. Too little stretching, and the band has no utility, too much and it snaps.

Obviously those are both failure modes. We want the quality of stretchiness, to use a technical term :) because the requirements of what the elastic band has to put up with are changing over time.

Re: Sam Altman’s Manifest Destiny

#107

I continue to be impressed by the quality of The New Yorker's reporting. This is so far above and beyond most media coverage about Altman and YC.

Golden quote: "Launching a startup in 2016 is akin to assembling an alt-rock band in 1996 or protesting the Vietnam War in 1971—an act of youthful rebellion gone conformist."

That's ridiculous. Everything powerful that startups "try to disrupt" (GM, government, Wall Street, etc) now has their own incubators.

Only to one's immediate family might the work-life balance and low chance of success raise eybrows.

Re: Sam Altman’s Manifest Destiny

#108

Reid Hoffman makes clear like I suspected that SV power players are skeptical about Sam Altman. YC is becoming Jack of all trades master of none. Jury is still out on YC under Sam's leadership. By 2020 I think we'll start to see the wheels fall off.

It does seem there's a lot of flailing around. As someone mentioned, this http://www.ycombinator.com/rfs/ went from 6 under Graham to 21 under Altman. Altman mentions laser like focus at time when referring to how startups should function. The same doesn't go for YC?

It's really easy to get fame and plaudits by associating yourself with a cornucopia of big ideas, it's a lot harder to actually follow through.

Re: Sam Altman’s Manifest Destiny

#109
post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's the American narrative and boy, is it clear in all its features if you read this article with a European mind. If you're American and some foreigners tell you that you all look like you're up your own assess all the time, just think of this New Yorker piece as an explanation why. Excellent prose that crafts the same old boring story about how this very special individual has become richer and more successful tha…

As a fellow European, I disagree that we have built in common features - unless you think "European" means your country and its closest relatives. If we all had the same culture, the EU wouldn't probably be in its slow bureaucratic slump. On topic, don't underestimate the power of faith. Humans are not rational beings by default, so powerful narratives about the hot shots of SV really do have an effect in inspiring t…

But wouldn't you agree that we share at least a general attitude that tends toward a (most of the time) healthy skepticism?

Re: Sam Altman’s Manifest Destiny

#110
The most, we are here to understand where to put our technological hands in order to succeed, this because SV (and Y Combinator as one of its coveted stars) still has the gist, the money and the ability to deliver. If we in Western Europe could have something similar in Berlin or Amsterdam, now that London is going, I would be even happier.
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