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Re: Ask HN: Alternatives to AWS?

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Post by jurajlutter »

znpy wrote: post #7
jburwell wrote: post #2

The following are a few alternatives off the top of my head: * Google Compute Engine * Microsoft Azure * Joyent * IBM BlueMix * Linode (like DigitalOcean more VPS than cloud provider)

I think that Joyent does not get the coverage it deserves. SmartOS looks very very cool.

We (Erigones, https://www.erigones.com/en/) are making our own virtualization, orchestration and cloud suite, available for public use, based on SmartOS.

So far for commercial customers only (demo available) but we will release opensource community edition soon on Github.

Re: Ask HN: Alternatives to AWS?

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Post by jsingleton »

jnsaff2 wrote: post #92
pdelgallego wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would love to read more about AWS vs Azure, how services compare, and strategies on how to avoid lock in. Any recommendation?

I have previously built a auto-scaling/healing Mesos cluster on AWS for a retail company (scaling heavily during peak and sometimes during promotions) and doing the same on Azure for a much bigger retail organisation at the moment. So this is my in the trenches comparison: - AWS documentation is excellent, Azure docs are weird and inconsistent and for some bits nonexistent. - Azure API's are inconsistent and weird, b…

It's kind of a moving target. When we first tested Azure it was awful and we went with AWS, but it's got a lot better recently.

The new UI is nice but I think a bit rushed. It was pushed before all the features were ported from the old one and there are still things that are easier to do from the old UI (firewall rules for example). The embedded VS Code is really nice though.

I think this rushing applies to all of Azure. It feels like a very MVP approach and AWS is more polished. Agree with you about Beta services, don't use Previews for anything serious.

Re: Ask HN: Alternatives to AWS?

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Post by devonkim »

api wrote: post #52

Personally I am partial to heterogeneous deployments across commodity vendors like Digital Ocean, Vultr, Linode, OVH, etc. You do have to think a little bit more about security and devops but you get a lot of power and robustness for a lot less money. We do use S3 for backups and big storage. That has no equal.

Every time I do the math the bandwidth egress costs of AWS and GCE become rather large and non-trivial. How do you make it work for your workloads?

Re: Ask HN: Alternatives to AWS?

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Post by ekiara »

omginternets wrote: post #88

On a related note, is there a SaaS platform for access to cheap (~ $.001 +/- $.002 per Gb) disk space?

You could tie your cheap or free Openshift/Heroku to multiple free BackBlaze B2 storage accounts.

Depending on how 'grey' you're willing to behave you can get away with doing a lot on a virtually free infrastructure.

Re: Ask HN: Alternatives to AWS?

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Post by ekiara »

elcct wrote: post #76

I am using a few dedicated servers and Rancher (container platform). This way it is magnitudes cheaper than AWS and probably as easy to use. You can also avoid "cloud lock-in" when you start like this.

Do they have any sort of pricing page? It seems to be buried down in their site somewhere, I can't find anything.

Re: Ask HN: Alternatives to AWS?

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Post by quuuux »

bArray wrote: post #49
Jaepa wrote: post #29

There are a couple options, but it kind of depends on what you want. There is Openstack, which is a collections of IaaS provider with connected with an API. Digitial Ocean & Vultr which you already know about. GCE mentioned else where here. Linode, while not feature rich is the 2nd largest VPS provider. Azure, which is Microsoft's IaaS. Which I've always had some reservations about, but have actually subcontracted ma…

Just signed up to Scalaway. Being in France is pretty neat as it's close to the UK so I understand their law. Currently running an AWS nano instance but I think I'm paying too much for it. Unfortunately it seems as though they are out of the C1 instances. Thanks for the heads up!

On the lower end of their server types I can recommend their VC1 instances as an alterantive. In my experience they offer noticeably better performance with regards to both CPU and IO than the dedicated C1 boxes.

Re: Ask HN: Alternatives to AWS?

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Post by AlexB138 »

thom wrote: post #60

One easy alternative to AWS is just shovelling your cash directly onto a bonfire. However, if you care about the actual server bit, Rackspace have their 'hybrid' cloud offers. There's a small but well-thought-of company in the UK called Bytemark who have a cloud offering but I doubt it qualifies as having a global footprint.

Rackspace is, unfortunately, woefully behind the times when it comes to functionality. You're also looking at long term, very expensive, contracts for individual physical boxes if you're doing a hybrid approach. Their once-fanatical-support has also taken a major quality hit due to all the waves the company has had to ride out. Even as a one-time fan, I would be hard pressed to start a new project on RS.

Re: Ask HN: Alternatives to AWS?

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Post by davedx »

jsingleton wrote: post #79

Azure looks like the only major one you missed. I've used both AWS and Azure a lot. The best one will obviously depend on your use case but if you avoid lock in it shouldn't matter too much. I may write more on this if people are interested. AWS comparison: https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/campaigns/azure-vs-aws/ They have more regions than AWS (30 vs 13): https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/regions/ https://aws.amazo…

More regions than AWS, yet they still managed to have a multi-region outage last month due to some DNS issue.

Having multiple regions is worthless if one problem can take them all down at once.

Re: Ask HN: Alternatives to AWS?

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Post by vayarajesh »

imaginenore wrote: post #102
vayarajesh wrote: post #65

Google cloud - I have recently been working on setting up our company's entire infrastructure on google cloud and we were up and running in no time (very happy currently). - Great pricing - Great API (command line, REST) - Nearly perfect documentation - Awesome support (I had requested to allow more static ip addresses to be reserved and they resolved my ticket in less than 4 hours) - Very intuitive interface They gi…

"great pricing" it is not. None of the major cloud providers have great pricing with the exception of some niche cases. Look at Hetzner. Look at the cheap VPS options. Google/AWS don't come even close.

I think Hetzner is more of a hosting provider than a cloud services provider. If you are looking for a single server VPS for hosting then sure Hetzner is great in terms of pricing

Google / AWS cloud is more for running applications at scale and dynamically creating VMs and load balancing across servers with storage, logging, snapshots etc as a service.

Re: Ask HN: Alternatives to AWS?

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Post by elcct »

ekiara wrote: post #115
elcct wrote: post #76

I am using a few dedicated servers and Rancher (container platform). This way it is magnitudes cheaper than AWS and probably as easy to use. You can also avoid "cloud lock-in" when you start like this.

Do they have any sort of pricing page? It seems to be buried down in their site somewhere, I can't find anything.

As far as I know Rancher is free and open source
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